Hey it's trent, Britney spears' under-study and its Chris the owner of a brand new cake decorating business that will only make cakes for gays and now I'm on main routes better didn't turn up right kiddos eighteen or strap it on his guess what we're doing right now the the fear we yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's like bill science I wasn't that'll be our HBO we can't jump the gun and you get a musician sorry guys we cab and eight years as you look out the gate the the day you were going to be a god for awhile but no seriously we're back it's he's Hugh mines Jane Stevens and change will like it was like a long two months is that I was like with how late well let me know what's podcasting we I don't know why I was like okay buttons I know the guns are involved but it's funny because like when we paused our podcast I really didn't listen to podcasts for awhile me either I really I got I was I when I'm on what's the word backlog of podcast I need to listen to I have a few that are like go to yeah anyway so we're back this season to this let's do a quick highlight reel maybe like rapid fire yeah like for things highlights whatever in your life wrong in my life and then we'll jump into this season two episode one and my gosh of ovals two months of my eighty two months we go here we go into LA and saying hi sack love you but it was literally so insane I am still recovering from that I hear there's nothing really new I have more clothes and I think I need to start getting rid of some I just really that realization and hi mom pride month pride it well we just had a solid CD pride this last weekend and it was amazing and I think he was even bigger than before and I tried to new things not like sexually I did what I usually do of actual but I'm still so much but I thought a pound a day yeah I was like wow there's a lot of speedos but yeah ambience out I mean like I've just been working in but I mean I've been writing on a thriving in trying to live my best life's you've got this type fade on I got I got I have a new hair I'm getting on yeah rates for the first time on Saturday I'm letter this layout block extension yeah over that Michael B. Jordan monger Black Panther at love and see how that goes trying to put out in the universe what you want to receive I want to receive two at a time or even three lines okay alright well I probably top highlights obviously Thailand I went to Thailand for two weeks check my Instagram story highlights there's a whole thing I was ugly by a right yeah love Thailand yes for if Duke if you're listening from Australia it didn't work out well I'll put other yeah yeah winter friend's wedding just barely I miss pride not hide mine started and yeah it is super exciting and then another little a day I started downloading it different doorknob sink all your back on that yeah so I am back on TV that they love it Lindy's I'm a call on this article or Mike are you on the beach would be so I've been that you know doing some user testing on the bass so I may read a blog post about a yeah a day here or I've actually quite a few dates that have been find out what's going on yeah I've been like we went past like two months just day date date just I'm like yeah love that yes anyway so yeah that's a few updates in a corner and we went on a great cabin trip together I like literally I mean that was yeah I really good friend has a family cabin up in the mountains knows serve as we had such a little fun time there that one point we were all there was like a four way cuddling session going on and we were just like belting Hamilton and I mean like if you that does that is so special that yeah those who say that transcends all other trips I've ever had before yes so I am involved so that makes a lot of alcohol that's not only were like a cold alert will be fight literally David hall like god is all god I like get there and the models are empty like where this guy away my drawing yeah so we're back and one thing when we're talking about what you want to talk about I realize we haven't really dissected or really talked about why we picked a mask for mask for a title and also what that means so in this episode let's tell everyone how to be mask don't you all need to bro up a little bit yeah I left and so I do you want to start with great review kacak at this is from our good friend Jake this like Lee that's way into what you get out yeah I asked being super mask and then what kind of defined what mass for mass means seven title nothing is mask about this podcast five stars things statement I was looking for a solid podcasts that they could grow out to and really get my douche fluids flow there was a not at these two houses were not brown out now home now false advertising and fake news if you're looking for a host of family oriented guns a Blazin dudes themes our this isn't for sale audience sachet demands the cold that worship a gender dysphoric false god room Paul I had to see my pres after listening to this to repent because I laughed so much while these two hosting to be male there apparently are multiple silent female hosts because they keep referring to her she and curled as if I'm supposed to do Justin no one who they're talking about it becomes very confusing also the host seem to be in some co dependent mother son type relationship classes sexual Bates motel undertone all in all a very entertaining our dare than a football back trust me there ain't nothin mask about it honor says all the nice is being with like sachet demand I like to do something about so why it from your brain what does mask for masked man give us a little break down and my gosh will so yeah I mean like it's very interesting because for me I think that it's like all American type that we we've grown up to see it everywhere yeah and they have got to be like it's gonna be deep voice they gotta be they either you fit they gotta be into the sports all the sports they got to be the yeah you know it's very it's very %HESITATION I don't even know I I I it's so do riso down but I think of like rock Hudson wanted which is funny because he was the complete opposite but like he's not mean that the idea that it's like the all American male that you you know like that %HESITATION or like the entire cast remember the Titans yeah like it's the idea of that about bro out sort of sense of of like I don't know in the end it that's where it's always been and that's and not like idea is what spreads across to like %HESITATION it when it comes to the dating out and act out like they have to the the old people say that to each other and they say so closely because it just like I don't want anything right another bro writing or reading grinder profile once I said like %HESITATION I mean to women not due to don't be one or something like that or some **** like that and I was just like I wonder like messages guy clothes just like who are what the what if I yeah I think that makes no sense like there everyone's a man here like I really like their yeah it just is so interesting so and that was like that's why I always just kills me because immediately and I've been an I've been like both like victim and like what's the word like right sure of that because like yeah because you it's a battle especially new top at a like a lot of people out to deal with yeah is %HESITATION is the idea of that and I kind of figuring out if you you know what you want to cater towards your masculinity in lean that our youth and any it's a whole battle but it is a struggle but I think especially by here in and you know when you grow up in a religious family I think it's and eat that type of guy and you know to yeah it's it's really different yeah totally now and essentially mask for mask is masculine for masculine and like you said on different like hook at you know the hook at grand yeah I call it folks will use like mask for master masculine for masculine to indicate their quote unquote preferences but you had on some really good points like I think it is pretty problematic in the fact that it creates the cycles and also create these expectations of what masculinity is and what it does not %HESITATION but when you think about masculine or like masculinity by definition it is just someone who is like mail and harm and so that could be a variety of people from a variety of backgrounds yeah yeah we we pinpoint right alike for very very specific things right it's like anything you don't hit them even meet meet if you only me like if you meet all three except for one for example and I said yeah you're not master right now it's like this by projection of like I mean honestly it's like exaggerating like header normativity like we had in like this idea of like gays are feminine yeah and it's like also like himself like internal homophobia there and then it also like starts translating into like gay men being pretty late misogynistic towards women and like the way they talk about women even like a China's yeah I mean it's like very like objectifying and so this like whole like brown of mass for mass culture like starts to be pretty toxic oh yeah and like toxic masculinity doesn't discriminate against you know sexual orientation so it's still there were still man we don't have like things we need to like you know confront no young man the O. yeah the gay community is non whites it is not like perfect right we are we are like as much as we have we have issues that we have are to blame for an early teen you and be in that and the idea of like master master you have to you have to be like yeah that I'd that sense is one of those the I've always so interesting because those guys who do that I mean like I said I'm not to be crass which I usually almost like as like they're like you're sucking the same Dick I am like right out like you end up fighting dudes like your it's you got a Dick in her mouth yeah masculine are I'm not more feminine yeah yeah yeah right doesn't make any sense like calling and like me calling you bro or vice versa doesn't make this any less get really well yeah I think it's it's just it's very it's very fascinating to me %HESITATION it ready because like that's an interesting yeah ray and then you also see it like translated in like an too late how we assume people are too so like all right now you look at like a guy in the gym he's like super like jacked in like muscular and he's like %HESITATION yet total mask like plays football like wearing a backwards hat with some sports logo I like describing like yeah worse human them yeah like he's also gay and then we're like oh he's a total topper like he's a dom well yeah but then you see someone who's like maybe like more expressive and artsy and then you do like %HESITATION like he's about in bed or you know are they all got all yeah starts to like even in late increase because it goes yeah because they like you what you believe to be you being yourself and not like you're automatically gonna put into these day trip they gave tribes of yeah of you know in that culture which is also just like what I'm really difficult because then he is near you and talk to that person is right all straight up observation might have acted yeah exactly and that's in that I've always thought that was the reason to because %HESITATION and in like because the fact that like that guy that guide the broke the gym like the moment he says you're Pollard he's is prob I mean like he loses all credibility rag which is so interesting down like he can be the deepest voice yeah be like this scruffy is mountain pine one negative credit may well I didn't mean I mean like we are so we just we had that could seek so quickly were just like hope this guy is the perfect guy but by all these things that I like him and then boom but he likes group project or he or yet I don't know if he's a he's a fantastic dancer right immediately everything is off the table and ran into consideration when you think it is important to talk a little bit about like our best assumptions of like why this happens and when I think about like that I think about like back when and like gay folks were literally being killed for being gay or not like horrible discrimination a lot of it still exists today but just the way you acted the way you talk the things you talked like everything about like what you wear in a way like putting on a mask like an insanity mask the way you were doing that the things you're choosing to talk about translated to like the type of manual work and so if you were maybe more fan or something then people would be like of he's he's not he's he's gay yeah let that expert and then people like openly discriminate against you so it's like this like front error literally was a different type of mask that they're putting out of that they when he found out right and so I don't want to be like insensitive towards actors that was like a survival mechanism I feel like yeah and I respect that completely and I think that's I think that's what yeah very true that it was like a really terrifying time right but as like masculinity transforms I think across my dad genders as cross and light cold or is it in like after I think it's becoming more more fluid which is so cool to see because a lot easier yeah yeah I mean more people are feeling that empower to either live authentically yes and be okay with liking to dance but also liking sports or whatever that might be but as you but I understood experience that you know grown that became a man that how do you just find masculinity for yourself and how do you like to see at night being portrayed with in our community like LGBT community who are I mean and it probably this private worse like example and probably not the best because they is the bad maybe the bad stereotypes associate with it but I really did learn what it meant to be like a man and masculinity in my fraternity because there was a law rich blend of different people but I think that at the core of it and it just how you kind of how you do certain things in in a fraternity I think that you kind of like it just like it all blended together in the sense that like you were there for one each other and it was in like sexual it was in it was it but I like it was just like so many make roles you took with a different man and I think that kind of comfortable names and being able to like %HESITATION how they gets an equal sense of your Maslen your femininity and and to be honest with yourself and where you lie in that I think that's what I think with masculine means to me is that year that you would like embrace those aspects of you arm or you don't and you need to make changes which is totally fine too but I think it's yeah I think it's like kind of finding out perfect balance I mean I perfect but no one's perfect but just like that balance and understanding that like you have to connect with different people and you have to like except that yeah I knew in in maybe a guy maybe someone else it may be a girl but like being able to do that both equally and fairly I think that's what it means to be an actor masculine for me yeah because that's that blend is very as of a good quality I think everyone should start to have house for you what about you that what do you think yeah I I think a lot about masculinity because my up bringing you know we talked about I have seven brothers who are all pretty conservative pretty religion as and growing up in that and they all like wrestled and played football and they were like quintessential all American boys yeah and then I came along and my dad's like a like you should wrestle owe you should play football and I was like I'm good at it but I don't like it you know right and then I was more artsy and I like to do theater and so the way like I transformed and like grew up and went through things I was hyper aware of masculinity yeah or at least like the stereotypical definition of like Domon and and strong and my dad would always say like boys don't cry and and I was always crying and I still cry and so I was like I sing always hyper aware of and so as I've gotten older my my definition of masculinity or like when I hope it would be is like that there is that one yeah like a cop you know that's not a cop out of it I think clay and in the gay community enough I'm talking about that like we so a lot of us have been rejected from our family is a lot of us have your stories that maybe we don't fit in anywhere else so we are grasping for these labels and that's maybe another assumption that I have about why we maybe use math for massacre or these different types of label systems which is fine and I think there's like there's spaces were at the ocean excess and but when when we're talking about like masculinity and femininity and like get so and discriminatory yeah you start thinking about folks who may be are like non gender conforming or they don't recognize or are they don't know them yeah right now or later year like well I don't for me is like a little cricket I was like I wish I would have had people who are like it's okay to be really like outgoing and artsy and like more expressive which are feminine yeah I and still like identify as a boy or as a man or whatever and so for me masculinity would just be living authentically as this and I don't like a self identified now yet and that's it and your dad yeah because that's like in my eyes I'm like that's the that's on the definition and I think like authenticity of like being open and whole hearted and being willing to connect people like you talked about and being willing to cry if you're hurting and ask for help if you need it and you know just like getting rid of like these gender labels I have what it means to be says that's where I'd like to see yeah I think I think the one thing you're of one part that I like another area of change with balance comes into play I think is like movies and television because %HESITATION tonight where I got my idea and we're like I did like was like all of the television and all of them like the movies I watched I never like even like the gay males the I was in another television %HESITATION where like those bills that Mastino yeah they're like why says gendered by right exactly I made and but then like and then in like I love movies television and it still happens now is it easy because like yeah these like really forward thinking directors and the answer is and yet like the gate love Simon for example in the game man is a straight actor and he is has a deep voice he is like one hundred percent Q. yeah like media Q. yeah but then like %HESITATION it %HESITATION and then you have that on the flip side of life up a show like riverside where the gay guy is super into close down in my each and like all or I'd chits creaky bag he's gay and it but like a yeah I mean he's like just he's what people consider over the top right which is a big issue because then you go out in the real world and you meet a man who is who I'll find where is my favorite I think yeah yeah eccentric yeah and you think that that guy is over the top neatly where you go to cricket haven't been exposed or like you don't have like direct interaction I have like this is what a gay man looks like yeah exactly and in so you just put this idea in your head of like a case of this guy's cool in this guy's over the top into fumbling and I mean I don't want to be friends that person I while I that person and it like it's like still happening which I think is just so interesting because it's like shows that are all these forward thinkers in our celebrate never love them but it's just all kind of like like sickness city celebrating our twenty five years today isn't like that and even then like the episode where she goes the first gay bar and it's just like this like yeah me later thousands are yeah I don't dislike of my god like this is not where I thought my life and I really had no idea really good example and I think it's like kind of catapulting that same conversation as queer eye yeah where you have Jonathan van **** like very like outgoing and fumbling and expressive and like flips is hammer says like all of these like saying that people are like well it like even me like I am totally like are you looking for myself like very like says the and found a lot of ways and I was like well he's a lot yeah I like it but he's like because he's like can you believe and I was like oh my god bless and I immediately unlike okay Trent you wear heels to trap and we'll have a few jazz fan and years you know there's a guy who runs the if it is because a place where you watch stuff and even if you're not the most woke person out there you're still like vada yeah like though when he's a little that's not what we're used to yeah yeah and that's in my I'll never forget when he was making the hand lotion like guys in that with the girls in the grandma yeah and there are a lot of space in if I was there like I would be like with her like I was like yeah he is well known here me everywhere yeah exactly alike I'm sure but that's what I'm saying is it's one of those it's acceptable interesting yeah %HESITATION it because eve yeah even as like a US of a plane now he's gate you see that and it really has that's we like I think I'm I'm happy that these types of shows are coming out yes widening the lands and you know in media a U. I'm I always think about like why I felt that way and it's like well like I want like the representation of my community to be things that like the streets will be comfortable in the third like that you know I get my act justifications Byron like what he's being himself that's amazing and that enables me to be myself yeah I should you know do the same for others and extend our exit art center but it gets yeah but he does I'm waving my hands on your face something though it's a it's a really is one of those like really because it still happens and it sucks because like I wish it didn't happen in my head yeah but yeah those little things creep in some task and I can only imagine how that could have been when there was like only willing grace I don't know on TV telling Jack is really flamboyant but then you yeah right in that and like that and for a long time that was all you had yeah but you know that was all you had for I don't I channel fourteen that's what I yeah I know that's what I will remember when I was younger but if you had to see it as like a super like since the flamboyant who knows nobody take seriously or is like this jockey like six million total constable dad kind of exactly %HESITATION yet read it was like very like stray and like very like straight acting yeah ones like very now and it's like this funny character yeah everyone can laugh at exactly and then have like friends were like any being gay really other than like Phoebe was kind of like neck the Burroughs yeah next yeah %HESITATION Joey and Ross napping together was like me like now brought and like I want to do it again and it's funny and it's like right kid throws a raw is affection and like riding like the apple like if one of carriages Rick I was gay I mean like would be still be ahead I'm I don't know exactly so I think it's %HESITATION it but fascinate yeah so that whole conversation and like mask for mask that's kind of where we started because we started talking about this podcast and kind of what would we do like what's our angle and we're like how funny a singer here are living I had my fan go and I was just in my going to read how this dog is yeah males stereos right in our community so we took a bath and kind of use that as a springboard to be silly and take like stupid things that are happening in the community and really talk about them or use that as a platform to like have other conversation you know all season when we were playing around with different content but you know now we want and we played around a lot yeah yeah it's it's it was I love I love it was yeah it was like so fine because of the of that fact but yeah we would like to so many different bands which is which which is a well yeah and that's what like yeah isn't using to be even better speaking of playing dead Omar guys we're back at and we have like poke at each other and let you all okay that cried and stake beings in each other's way well sorry about going back to the strap on what he's still left a quick little game teachers and alive love to choose an ally as so as okay I'm gonna have you go first okay you want me to read my two two seven yes okay now if you don't know the game I'm just yeah if you don't I think game Chris is going to guess which one is the life I mean he's a pause Google come back yeah if you don't and I don't come back kept up my back if you don't know what to do is that a lie leave it removes the rocky sleeping on that okay okay okay I created a fake grinder K. account to catfish someone the second one I hooked up with a guy in Mexico can can on the balcony while my roomies for sleep and bad K. the third one I had sex in a public bathroom in New York City I know one of those is true so I will I mean all arm and blushing it was the first one again I created a fate grinder account to catfish someone I hooked up with a guy in Mexico in nineteen and out on the balcony I'm gonna while my roomies very sleek I think the second one's alive you think the second one is yes then the story though from a friend I don't want to do we know that all you have never was I was one of the sleeping in bad and he was taken up with an eighteen year old who was out for yeah but you're well aware think you have relations with all what we came out after podcast that's so funny yeah okay did so %HESITATION so over the teachers again %HESITATION I have sex New York City hi Todd but as they her name and then the other one is a created a fake grander to cafe someone and that when I made it sound more extreme but this is one I still street Trent and created a grander town I I was holders are being made the better of the printer apple press by I was a creative and count to like freak out and that catfish with somebody else on vacation laugh and and we're like we're like California pizza kitchen and I was like messaging him under the table with my friends our dislike and he was like holy **** guys there's this like tiny says he's like watching me through the window and is like a straight so I didn't like do it to like maliciously like rap someone's heart out but I just want to fight with my friend that slash I want the along Grand last year I was highly you were okay who teachers in high regard yeah I've kissed one porn star I've done a photo shoot in my underwear and on pride week for the first person I kiss was a woman it's number one me switch the number because the kids more than just one porn star dammit that is in right women we met up at the cabin no well all I was I was in the count down and now I know I mean I was at a club was that trap the other innovations looks great by the way yeah that's stayed on some is highly how massive yeah that's where we can have our first live show let %HESITATION within this religious like high end I think you're cute wanna make out and I was like okay I later and I did I just turned on a literally are roomy and our friends were like that's what month it is that I would like to see writers are made out with like this I would like to you know I don't I will use it was a great make outside but yeah I know I have not kissed one porn star I've kissed three has and you did a photo shoot any added your photos you're my higher and it was in it was an interest well I mean like I was at the great photographer and I love him so I mean he was it was really cool but like I'll never I'll never forget the like the techniques we had to do it I had to put bread to cover our fine **** lines only catch it and I'm like add a little as well and it was there that was just it was like soft bread so it didn't really like it but like we had to like take the bread to peace and put a cop mental circle they liked and then you have a like homeland in which of the **** line see this is why it masculinity of little then like when we were done like there was bread comes everywhere and we were like writing columns croak bread crumbs way because they it just like we were doing it underwear all day it was yeah it was a interesting yeah better but they they look great think here well I I I I I mean we're yeah maybe they could sponsor is one that is a good time alright alright so let's do a quick plug of something we are living right now so but TV means a podcast clothing line at like fried minds log RD or is I'll start okay I want to plug the TV show rad eighties it is about how NBC yes takes about the high school students at the theater department and they're trying to do that is and production of spring awakening which is a musical yeah and it is so good there's lots of like we are characters and I was just like living yes I like watching all the episodes like gas downtown Philly though well season one fellow got a got a good thing so yeah so watch it soundtracks great because it's basically just but spring awakening as so yeah living for it well that's pretty much the musicals because I wasn't into music to yes I just watched you know money's sure motion picture or album and I I I have so many things to rethink about my life his curly she just transformed it was amazing I was speechless I like and honestly like it doesn't like I didn't it's forty minutes I need to write and I didn't and I like it but it just it all happens and it's done and I was like I don't know what just happened right you know I mean like I was in the dark just my laptop in just go away and I just sat there and I was just inspects the bill like I would and then the other thing is agent was I'm I don't know why but I'm super into the freaky Friday musicals are freaky Friday on my gosh I mean mean girls musical both the law have productions but mean girls the media isn't it musical just came out that Tina faded out and I am the some of those songs are like so funny and it's like you can get the movie but like Tina fey and the whole crew did a really good job I mean Hey I don't check it out yeah I don't know why but I've just been like run like a musical music cash eater queen yeah alright state to state I don't know what would really senior what would be your goal was beautifully sat on what would be your on like stage name no I was trying to think of other he asked his question but I would be like if someone if you okay your dream they had about Beyonce let's say she'd really didn't make it though okay and they need you perform all right what song would be like in your repertoire I would probably pick a Sam Smith one because they're like the like good for my rain okay I would probably do you like palace I love that song I'm potential the another on but palaces just on that popped up so that seems right came yeah I had a couple but I think like never enough in the day show men telling myself but only if I get that dress is like in the back and like this is the room where the all white all in the fall in if if a white dress is there and that I've just like I'm flow you get out of my grasp that's the only way I would do it the role went out there now I'm regretting and maybe I should do you like I could do maybe I could do like I like I like in music like at musical song who I can't do like %HESITATION I thought you because a song from rent honestly I thought we I thought you would say take me or leave me and I would be the duet partner but life on a world tour that'll be our open open because they only have to wait until the end can't say that there were like nine and you say okay well we are we done already yeah welcome back to C. thing to say I want more of the next three Daddy and me more of an exciting update out sorry like I wasn't climax my prostate was not it could be if we could arrange that know what I was gonna saying is the website all my guys in my plane around in it like it and then a favorite Daddy's not yeah X. live in terror yeah it's just am four am podcast dot com just like over social media is and from podcasts though under that let us know simple and it should be good news will be up soon yeah that sailed on the Friday night yeah only 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You remember hearing about the tragic divorce between Channing Tatum and Jenna Dewan? Well I'm sitting here with the reason behind it all. Queens and boys, meets Channing's newest  beau and hopefully his last, and my co host, Trent Morrison    Yes, it's true, we're together. He's currently on the bed! Ahhh, he's so great! Channing  how are you? I'm good thanks! Yeah... Jenna doing all right? That's good! Alright, alright, I'm currently writing his biography titled "How The Fuck Do You Eat So Much Pizza and Still Have Abs? The Chris Glaittli story!" I really hope by the title of my biography albeit I really hope you're right the bike is that the the intro the bio the forward the fall where the four when I'm writing the biography so also for sale on a tour exclusive copies in the morning where are the first band I cannot wait to get over there on the edge of my seat so this is our tenth episode my gosh episode of mask for everyone number ten so we've got some little things today for everybody to celebrate number one zero this is ten weeks people you've been listening to my soul the boys from we you move into my stupid as laughter and we broke in math to get like my like I was telling someone like I have a podcast lab they like what I was like yeah it's kind of like a I would try not to laugh like so aggressively you know Phoebe Robinson's yeah I know when you hang out with them a lot and if you start to mimic a lot yeah I would I listen to their podcast when you're yeah but when I do you believe that I really though and I live by the rob it's a great loss I'm okay a monkey with a doctor I left a year in %HESITATION was going to say how houses during being for you it has been from what I've been so excited to jump back into podcasting and to just have the gas time with you and the gate is it's just been such a blast and it has been so crazy because we your birthday was last weekend at and we had a we had a great time to add classic skating yes we did a little nineties roller I'm not really I was good you're amazing but well I was your co workers you I came to the to the party everyone was talking about the podcast death it was crazy to like here they're McCall episode of things like this stupid **** that I've said I don't like that yeah unlike lobby me like I should not it's about yeah but totally and even like with my co workers he brought this and I'm like and please don't tell a job like this is on me you need to look into this podcast like you would any other I think talk a long can't report me that's not creating a buyer I was second no I mean it was it was so cool to hear but it also by but yeah I think that it in any other capacity yeah I think that I wouldn't admit to being led out doing a blanket so so quick yeah divide easily but yeah that's what it's been so much fun because it's like having a combo if you're BL that has totally to Gaby FF yeah yeah I think you may be right and yeah yeah it's like the best so ten episode yeah yeah so much in common but like what are we talking there's a lot we took one last episode yet so we're doing what we talked about that and I'm like you know me more than my yes they were gonna do some season just so we get a moment to breathe we love making content we just wanna make sure we have some time to you know think a little bit more and an experience that so smart and one of us going to Thailand and no one of us next week yeah I'm so excited I see though the grossing because you're leaving me but I mean yeah so can be so high and warm and I'm just already ready for it I've got like five speedos ready why they were assaulted by ironic swim this ironic on Thursday so I don't bother anyone in this week's knows he's going to town for issued actually with they want realistic bodies about everyday Americans that's why I'm in a this is the episode ten asked one of the season and so we want to do ten questions you should ask LGBTQ folks never ask me never speak about because listen up girl we don't like them our bus they don't want to hear them anymore it is two thousand eighteen I mean it's shocking honestly but I mean I'm not around as much but I know these questions still have and yeah unlike Jessica did you really does not only not really come Monica Matt leaned out seriously so we're gonna go through what we do wanna preface like some of these questions might not seem like that harmful and and harmful is a big word but you might not even think twice about it but we hope like this conversation we want to kind of explain a little bit why you should be a little more cautious you've probably heard Chris and I ask each other these questions even on this podcast but we don't see or what you don't now is ours six years of multi layered super in depth relationship and also there's a thing called insider privilege yes answer both identifying gay man like there's certain things that we can ask because we're in this community whereas if you're outside at your look and then there's some things maybe it just their owners Sabse yeah you should take it verses just jumping right into something yeah when it %HESITATION it this is there but this is not just like you know we finance someone's gay it or you know there was you know a part of that spectrum like to to just jump in and throw questions at them when they may not be comfortable with themselves even have to assume a bunch of things about them now they told you one aspect about them totally it like it's really intense and especially if you feel as a like what were best friends over super close I can ask these things yeah that's not when they come out to you it's the it's a new relations yeah and you should be very well and I'm exactly and of course these are personal perspectives that I mean it's control copy for the entire LGBT giving community life is either talk yeah I chose because I I cannot take on that bird I am the beautiful spokesperson for around but not for the entire though so I'll jump in with my first we each prepared five question and so ten total at because yeah they really do that I love a good theme today's sponsored by Sesame Street is the number ten so my first question is how did you come out so I live good like how did I come out right will that question doesn't seem that her for a lot of folks like myself included I am an open book someone asked me like my name I'm like I'm trying to came out when I was twenty six you know what I mean except that that I came out I can get my but it is what you don't realize it is a lot of people's stories are well not a lot of people every person stories so personal yeah and some of them can be really tragic oh yeah so it that would be a quota of being like why don't you have a dad when your dad died rightly that's like a really intense thing a good positive way in my perspective it if you really want to know that story if you want to take get to know that aspect of them because you know a lot of times the more you get to know someone team they typically will open up yeah with their coming out story if they're comfortable sharing and so that's something you do want to now always let that person guide the conversation oh yeah so ask questions and make sure you're creating a good environment where you're safe place where you they can trust you and I get a good definition of trust that I always plug is by Bernie brown and she breaks down in one of her Ted talks the anatomy of trust she has an acronym called briefing to help define try so its boundaries reliability accountability vault integrity non judgment and generosity and so that's kind of like a layered approach of how you define trust and so when you're creating a trusting place for that person to you tell there really personal story sometimes like I said tragic sometimes exciting and like amazing and yeah the whole family leave the LDS church because it's so toxic and they're like in pride with you and not everyone has that story definitely not everyone so part of that acronym is a vault the V. of briefing and that essentially says like I can trust that person to keep my secrets and not tell other people but also like I know they're not gonna tell me other people's secrets yeah that makes sense so if you truly do want to know someone's like how they came out story other coming out story my biggest advice is just to let them steer the ship just letting them like open up disclose information in a good way is to also disclose information everyone comes out in some sort of way Elgin times that the lines in lengths is like totally it to some people little bit and you know inch by inch to like the full everyone their lives but sometimes they don't yeah now I can all wants now so that's like my biggest advice if you want to know that just let them serve the ship yeah I got a light in the even then like I am very like just throw it out there because I definitely can you and me all three I like to last me like how to happens like man his to happen and you know I'm lucky but I I yeah there is you know and there's that the huge and this isn't even like back then about like the you know the gay homeless teens there could have totally unleashed after they were came out that mounts them or you know and so she's crazy because you have to like respect that story total session one even if it happens like at a young age you still have to like it's hard yeah my question is why is it so I went silently looking up research questions and I would and I kind of got on this like things never ask %HESITATION women your gay lesbians okay and %HESITATION the one because that was like it was like on all of them was who's the man relations it also applies to gay men as well I mean like to I mean anyone them because that's like such a crazy insane thing to ask a person but to women especially and the other one article called that I read like that that it was like that it's the header by who's mentally ship in the for things like %HESITATION were not named were too **** women yeah and I was like hell yeah you are yeah so it's just like that's a really good like don't ask yes other kind of crown ask so another question and we can kind of snowballed as like the third questioner the third statement but mine was who's gonna be the mom when you have kids and it's that same idea like I had one of my really good friends parents asked me when I was talking about well yeah like I want kids that other like well he's going to be the mom like he's gonna stay home %HESITATION like play them a local mall right got a question like who's the man who's the one man first of all gender is such a spectrum so not everyone identifies on a binary yeah let's include non binary folks in this country and just also understanding that all of these like ideals we have is bill off the picture keys back as well has heteronormative ideals so so that's a lot but we really I mean it's it was is crazy to me to think that like the idea of the other masculine within which is the whole point of our progress first place but that you you still put that by a new generation ships yeah and then you ask them to tell you which one they're gonna be for and it's almost the tone sounds like the man is the first and the montage women is like the second hearing that yeah and that's like the home keep I my height exactly is like no yeah I should be easy I'm running G. Q. yeah he's doing some lawyer I yeah I like it our kids will be great me just like I know but it doesn't it never it doesn't occur to me but especially in that sense that's just really nice to me yeah I don't know I was very much like is ask question what the hell would I say that but I was and I was like oh lesbian if I was a woman who was either within the woman I mean I haven't even imagined like that still being a pain right I don't know but it is or even link non binary like you're sitting there and someone asks them might owe so who's the and they look at the partner and they might look a certain way and they assign a gender yeah not only like is they don't even ask you just assume they like as soon your gender black white and then they also the senior partners gender this like two yeah and is the only get like a moose lake function of like hetero lake hierarchy and you're just like just just don't also yeah I feel like you can't do this because this is it in flexing gave parents like it they like just look at them be light and see like there can be like oh yeah he's definitely the more right you're yeah I felt like what since then she has short hair she's obviously the right data yeah and it is hard again speaking to insider privilege like sometimes like what kind of girl or like lesbian women watch like it refer to each other like but sure there's a lot of my time on all like insider privilege terms that again like we can use because our part of the community and we're using them as like flipping them upside down and not allowing them that presses anymore but making fun of them or read it engaging the word and what it means that you can't but like you can't just Emily jumped into the outside using that dictionary words just because your friend is it game me okay yeah I it is by my friend give like in that kind of the real like and I I met you last week I am so sorry Ali I'd be best friends with any okay what's the for it statement that you have because I can I jump my third on the I am so I was still was on this like women yeah women track with this in la and like the lesbian community a lot because I I just love them on so the one the other one was like so you like girls so you must hate men now brother I'm like haha that's right and it's I think it's really funny because I've also met some gay guys %HESITATION you know men who have been like of gross like a woman's **** and you know who's sick and and it's kind of like okay you dont to say like that again not yours at the money more right in women and not your thing and that's you know great totally fine call but it's either it is mean you hate another Jedi are because of that and there's the women and and how strong they are and and essentially just like the women in in like let me communion are prominent figures in like society in the media and everything like it doesn't mean that they hate men it's just like they're not there are charges yeah I don't want to be partnered with that right person any that just it just is crazy because like you know I'm not I mean it's not as if yeah you're just going around being like going on the you know the local I. have no target you you grow and grow well yeah I mean it does now yeah yeah that's not your thing and the vice versa wouldn't happen for men you're like well yeah that he's a man so he has discussing your like that's not how it works yeah so you don't just assume that the just because someone's gay the means they hate the gender the knowledge track to to status is backwards thinking yeah and there is yet no I worship to many women yeah way too many unlike high this morning my shuffle on and my apple music start out with the launch then it was only shot than it was beyond say that it was his who often are to nominate and I was like god I don't like these women and I know I'm blast from above like women women anyway right exactly you know so you should be like because that's them but you like you do you should see a round yeah just filler fantasy don't poop on anyone else's seriously though and and to your point about you know well you must hit all man it's like a like don't make those assumptions down great lake don't assume like because I'm not dating who you think I should be is because I hate them I guess in like most of the things LGBTQ community at like what they're doing is from love and wanting love I think most people I've interacted with is like we're doing this because I love this group yeah we're we're marching because I love this group and I want them to have equal rights yeah we're doing this because I want to be able to marry the person I love so don't assume like stuff is from Haiti and I've had a few people in my life family or entonces who are no longer in my life had mentioned link all like after you came out like your heart was filled with hate and that was like a religious connotation I was like really that's fine because I'm the opposite as though it's like this option and so weird and just again like get to know someone asked them what their passion about and maybe they will say I'm really passion about hating men end okay mean that's what but don't make that assumption right and I think that especially like now or like how we've talked about so many queens in our lives out in the in the past and the past episodes in in just like appreciating the the spectrum of beauty we have especially now on all John legend actuality yeah it's just fine because you you're able to just look at a person in their entirety regardless of these you know durable hateful connotation of the I mean in previous times and just be like that person is higher beautiful or sexy whatever just yeah like that fluidity is so much more fun and so much more le and appreciated then %HESITATION Yalla those are some of the some of that yeah she's crazy total years which okay so my next one I think this is like number five number five is OMG you should date my other day frat and I'll tell you I have gone and there's so many times being a gay man in years time as you know whose single people are like oh like single hood like in Utah specially like I'm twenty seven now and people are like the thirties that can like to rate their and like everyone gets married at twelve here so there's like this expectation of being partnered or coupled or whatever and so I get this question a lot of like burn your statement rather than a friend I'm and might follow up to that is like %HESITATION tell me about him and I think well he's gay I might go on well well maybe I don't know him that well I'm like oh so you're making the assumption because about two gay men who are single will like each other first of all I like I like a lot of people and I'm open to friendship but it's gonna take a special man to remove that okay I am as that man in my ways he knows what he wants and its not accepting for anything less island me I've never been set up by a friend like ever her I've heard that before of like usually meet this guy and like %HESITATION he's a he's a he's clearly gave you a lot and I'm just like clear a bad night okay yeah so like I never set up by laying out that kind of windy but I remember one time I we were like my friends out together and I was checking out a guy and they were like oh Chris come on that side type and like you're like well I like it I love the gnome years yeah but also what yeah I like used to it was really funny but I like my friends the the you know straight friends I have there are really you do you like they're able to aid you tear you also able to defy my type super yeah we now but I feel like it's also the idea that not every guy the needs can be gay but when the meeting gay guy there like all I have a house of again friend yeah I know and it's just it's kind of like you don't want to token as our friend but and you do that when you just left immediately totally put like that the very basic level out of similarity like they are both attracted to the same gender is out there they clearly are going to these other ethnic in this like question is probably late it's not from a place of like %HESITATION I hate this person some gonna all or none of these like you're being done yeah so the problem with that question is there's a lot of assumptions right a lot of these questions involved quite a few layers of assumptions so with this one like you should take my friend because he's gay the assumption of AA that that person wants to be set up on dates yeah so I a simple thing as Hey are you dating anyone date you know will answer Hey why are you interested in being set up they will answer if yes then you say okay what type of person would you like to go on dates with and then they can explain characteristics are physical trait or whatever they're attracted to and then you can do if you really want to set up your friend make sure this line up before like yeah gate check some applying the up so just a few ways to navigate back if you're wanting to play matchmaker for your case friend or breeches shirt if they want it like if if they're open and yeah I really asking are you even are the even looking to yeah well or we know and helping like that and they're like you know at some filters on to the search of lay there and I know both of you individually anything like your personality to match really well yeah I've never sent someone out on a date that I didn't think I could date rate so it's like oh there's a straight person hears a straight person they should go date like I know a lot of single straight people say they've never been like a year straight so with my friend John like when you measure day yeah I actually don't know any St John's if I'm being honest but Justin yeah so it just like navigating that a little more it delicately or lately yeah I guess is it's just like getting to know the type of partner they're looking for asking them if they're open to dating or being set up pretty simple very simple I like the idea of adding filters to the searching getting that through because I think that if you know a person even like you know close dear friends of them you can you can kind of make those and get those kind of down bread for you but yeah it's socially when you just like your day he's gay she's gay year has just it's gonna work just data gathering yeah I like it it's never that great and then it's like the other and like that person you set up and the other guy I give that person we will know what you've done that and now that it's like they've bonded because of like that yeah like love you but not great which is how I would do those I really I love you but that was yeah that's just better knowledge of you better know yet don't put me down for blind date yeah yeah well equipped their next numbers so %HESITATION with this one I actually have heard from people in my own and I do I hate it but I've heard it before so why isn't there straight pride parade I'm gonna go jump out because I can not every month is can you can you look at me are popping right yeah I think it's crazy though because I think it happens like it right when the pride it like managing arts rolling there is always that one person on Facebook that you haven't spoken to since like you sign their your book in two thousand seven only and yeah I yeah I may people the babies look like why I'm wide there straight pride parade hi I'm sorry you and a few men killed for he will and I and I remember like we talked about drag queens in that light the just the powerful said they dine I just remember you know if someone asked me that I would like go like I would just go crazy like Facebook fi pull out the earrings and I'm like hold my who burned burned my finger to it because I was typing so I would just yeah I all yeah it's like is it just it just this is a crazy being to hear and it kind of it also goes back bill if you if you like even if you don't say that exact question but you are like okay what is the big deal about pride right or what is the big deal about missing and why you know why do we closed streets and have that aids in or I had a friend was like hair click you dressed up pretty slutty and go that I had the pride parade in like dance around can I come with you and I was like only guys who use the straight system that height of a lot of yeah right I always leaving church now yeah and I have like my like pride alpha in my car and I was where I need to downtown beating really this break milling stripping off my clothes met drive who data and say if I was like throwing on this team that much as I dislike calling card on my son because of the crisis slam my partner and I was like he sees this as me right around this is to be here right so it's like it exactly to your point like it might not be like out what life there straight pride but going doing the research though is so easy deadline literally you so important yeah just like it just like do little Google search yeah save yourself like some late stress or you know Google is around for a reason you don't have to put all the emotional burden on here LGBTQ plus friendly you can just say like what's the history of gay pride month yeah or pride month rather just stay but what's the history of pride month and you're gonna find a lot of sources that help you understand me trans women of color for starting the my chest on Wall understanding like the beautiful rich and colorful history of the LGBTQ movement and where it still needs to go and you'll honestly probably be sobbing because it's so gorgeous and painful really amazing and I think that like that's always where I get to is that like you it's almost more easier to redo the research by yourself yes %HESITATION versus putting someone on the spot yet again because then you think that that one gay person your life is this is this yeah I'd like the fountain of knowledge playing and like even just from this podcast one like I learned to live same and like only appreciated more the LGBT community but like I mean some people ask me questions and some guys that we have him listed right I'm like I have a no clue may I don't I don't ride I saw can't something apart right now that's not any Syrian and that's the beauty of like you rule in researching is that there's so many like vote people can post their voices and that actually speak for those are facets of the key as you teach me community and you can read them and you can interpret and you can hear the conversations and threads and it's really cool circling that re kind of research is super important but also like a straight pipe ray would be like just like a lot of cargo shorts and I'm Noah Wyle yeah yeah I'm like a little while a one club older on a Wednesday pulling in back pay well an insider privilege pride is a little bit in its intense there's a lot happening in the big party to celebrate and rooted they and the history of the like you said is really beautiful and so it's like seeing it verses researching it are yeah and just like we know your space like come to pride parade absolutely like coda pride events support like a local cities pride but no like where like how you fit in with that yeah right so if you have a gay friend their company like my company sponsors pride every year and we do a flow and I invite all my friends I'm like Hey let come with me if you want to walk in the parade front rows like see you know you get a dance with me because that's the type of person I am yeah think come with me if you don't have that just like %HESITATION like while I check in jewel a you know Google or ask questions in a in a good way edit and get to know that a community a little bit better yeah is ever like at the river like and shove you in the door out now it's like always been this open gate kind of recently gate it's inclusive gate with a hammer but yeah it is and you just go to the fair the vessels and and you can see it and interpret it and it was a lot of fun I love pride me to like so much fun and and I haven't had to wear anything crazy because as I have seen that but people also go all out total and I love it yeah there's such a specter I love it yeah yeah okay so that is the next question I have is or rather yet to question it where all the hot Wednesday so in Jersey right I like it like Instagram tags or like messages out of money stray you why girlfriends her sister under it I love all of you know I really do but these are just a gentle reminders that there's beautiful people in every sexual orientation I got you know what I mean like let's just not assume like all the hot ones are gay kids honey like I've been on a lot of dates are I've seen a lot of folks like on the apps not my Cup of tea also don't want to yuck someone Dion but they're not all they're not all hot and you definitely don't want to ever like say that I like hiking to be straight here just like I mean that it's it's that it almost sounds like just change your mind yeah it's like you know you're so disappointing yeah I'll look like setting it's like I am so used to it inside Tony of disappointment and like also if I was straight don't just assume I would be attracted to you I'm sorry if I went straight guys are like we have retracted to me bro online like look in the mirror now your cargo shorts not knowing where I just don't like a cargo shorts to much bulky mess but I will what do you put those extra **** parking and now I have I'm sorry I get so mad late show some vegan treats that I make any sense I would prefer a **** pack I mean at least at the Arab league down so the for that one just don't ask that day and it just like you know don't project your own dating and securities on me as a gay man yeah I can't find anyone on moral and gambling I'm single as well like and I'm also not just basing my dating filters on how bad we don't go to like your wife your girlfriend is be like %HESITATION land you a man and so it is good to know you're ready to go broad just be like a hot head you have a **** why don't you stay right out of the game yeah I'd like to really %HESITATION okay maybe like I think it's likely Adam stuff okay what's your next my next one is %HESITATION it but he used to date boys but I also go to used today girls so like if you're like gay or lesbian and their land or you know whatever like you used to date used to date your yeah so for me at the stereo type right like Houston eight girls Transcon yeah so hide right now and change and adapt and discover who they are and it's such a journey is a jerk I got there I mean it goes like that you know originally is is that you have to respect that process regardless if it whatever the outcome is if you're straight I'm gonna I'm gonna miss the respect your process of figuring out your straight math but it's like five years later you're Kissin into heat I am poorer every year what war taught Jack was yeah here for awhile let's I'm like itself like a bowl full of my I hope you're kissing a guy who I had not yeah but no call me in two thousand and twenty three that gets some years when they're about waiting for you here I yeah yeah it's it's a game it's like you know you see you know you there's so many people and they come out whatever they want to mean I was nineteen twenty four totalling some people I mean there thank their D. make you know they they had kids or yeah I like %HESITATION it if they don't get you know and it's just like Dow process and then to be like we used to date except so why are you dating by and it's like that was not a day that frame can now you're all the horrors you know what I mean like did your dating another friend I'm is low like the name dropping yeah I'm feeling very good about like a little bit of a TV show yeah unless growing as a frame character some Karen there's some Paul and Linda's we had no idea but yes exactly that crazy it's again it's like these like such strict pillars or constructs that it's like things change and things are flew it and it's like I you know I used to date white men and I've had sex with women and I still would if like there's another man involved in so there's parameters that people discover that they like or dislike and at the end of the day like it's not our job to judge someone for being straight no not someone's job for you know a straight person it's not their job to judge us for quote unquote changing the act but rather discovering who we are and and the people are attracted to and the people we want to live for and up way experience yeah it's it's like I I I would hope that someone feel comfortable to to talk to me about something they experience and I would be like you know and is it not that tone shouldn't you just because you do it to someone else you hope it isn't the I the you don't give out too so you know you have to established you know that I trust and that kind of idea of you're not coming from was a judge me just like tell me about a year a change purse saying that and you know you can kind of go from there but that's the whole reason of growing up yeah totally and so it's like that non judge man aspect of that briefing Akron I'm gonna make I'm gonna allow space for you to express things that you enjoy and that you've experienced and I'm just gonna let it set and I'm gonna you know respect that now and they'll tell you and you know that doesn't mean you have to agree with that but yeah I like if you're like a staunch Republican not sure it was the most podcasts but we love yeah but you know it doesn't mean you have to like a hundred percent agree but like still being respectful and and same frustrating I mean I should be respectful like my friends who are nineteen a joke a lot like I have friends who got married really young and the LDS church may joke a lot with them because they joke with me about it yeah but it's like I at the time like I told we try to respect like that decision of we're getting married and I'm like okay like your nineteen that in my experience might not scenes really intense but I'm you know I'm gonna I'm gonna respect it and I'm going to wish you the best well and I think that also for those who are every here listening and you are you know a part of the community our community and if you like I know my friend so my friends are straight of my guy friends that I mean they've been it's been lately there they ask me am I am I dating anyone and ask how's life because that was the guys and selling CD and I'm always like terrible account but but I but like but like %HESITATION it but you know I'll talk about dates I've been on but I won't just go into a full like when our conversation of like exact the last sex I had rank you know and so kind of respecting yeah someone else's lines and boundaries and in you know kind of with it you know just because they're like house dating you're just like all while part of this group yeah saying yeah on my nose you've heard about it right fist thing for the first what changed again yeah and you know going right into a it's not I mean you're not acting as founder yeah you know I think shell to yourself but I think that yeah I kind of kind of is that both ways where as like you and I or even like my real talk about until the sun until the car what the hell is that yet like yours grow that we're like I do have some straight friends and we're really open about our sexual experiences yeah like me really good friend Abigail and I like have conversations and is so like for her like I would feel comfortable disclosing because I know it's comfortable for her so again it's setting those boundaries it's respecting people's boundaries that they've sat and having open communication might well like that was a really intense yeah like thing to say and I'm happy that you had that experience I don't know if I'm the right person to share that with yeah I remember one friend and I was an eight day I just you know I looked over I mean this is my my exactly my assumption that was just like a weird been close for years I I can tell him anything service he did tell him I go into detail about an experience I had and he like he merely like yeah his body language like I was like well I don't think I am so sorry I I think I even had a really bad love yeah but I don't I don't know if I'm like I don't want to hear that I was like right at the and then then the occasion is like I don't want to hear what you did yeah probably well I we need every character yeah maybe that yeah maybe one went out there okay the last one I have number nine was we should go shopping can we have a girls night okay I had a real experience or not you know times click and you know what we're gonna go along and that's when it's number ten number ten got no what you but you can we've got hurt right classical longer yes that we heard okay literally what she said here BRB yes so there aren't we did that well Paul and it was just barely leaning towards a shorter so sorry all you can listen to this like next week at this end of part one and we're not splitting it up but he was right there is the questioning go to part two well I'm just saying if you don't want anymore we've had forty minutes late hit pause and pick up next week calf so the question number nine was we should go shopping rate but can we have a girls night so out one of my company as it was in a pretty conservative company down in link like the Lehigh area which is really conservative in that company as one of the token gaze which was exhausting and so I had a boyfriend at the time of the company holiday party and he came with me like my whole team is super great like left my team there and there's like two thousand people there so it's like okay of course like thing and bring my boyfriend and you know introducing him to a lot of folks in this great lovely evening of it some minor tweaks has nothing to story but I would change anything but so then the next day I get into work and the front desk girl like sorry women she's like nineteen some college lives in that area and like probably never met a gay person in our life she's like my gosh you and Andrew are so cute all my gosh did other than other than that and I was like I you know I've had a lot of fun dating him like you know we're getting to know each other so it's still new and fun as you think we should all go shopping and I was like and I don't know right but if you know me I love shopping yeah and like my other coworkers Celeste like I would be shopping with her like a drop like right now she called me and yet Chris we're recording this late I'm going shopping with the last so I'm going with you yeah exactly but it's like that establish relationships so she just made the assumption that like all gay men like to shop or that we all have style he was very well dressed we had like the same style as they mature sizing pant like I was like oh missed the closet this works yeah like just like that assumption out first and but the thing is like he didn't he doesn't like love shopping like cocoa like and maybe it's changed a little bit for him now but like at the time as I can like let's go shopping and he's like OK so this is like the assumption like all gay men love to shop and are good at it lord no fashion very well that's where my issue as an again simply getting to know someone and building that relationship like an easy thing was like Hey I'm going shopping I'm looking for this this or that like do you like to go shopping by any chance yeah and if you like away totally do I still don't know you that well so I might be like I'm busy which is like approaching it in a different way of like we should have a girls night her alike let's do you like a shopping spree like you'll give me a makeover any of those things like again link I would love to do those with like a lot of my close friends and I might even say that to you or some of our other gay friends like let's have a girls night yeah but that's like different like I don't I don't want like any know that sounds weird and confusing but again like we keep saying about like the insider privilege where I'm like oh like we can call each other that because like growing up my brothers were coming that girly or flake says the thank god like none of complex matter but heck a lot and I would like to put people at school date in Russia which is like kind of taking that and be like oh girl like me and then my love for drag race of course so it's just like that idea of like all gay men love shopping all make a we can have a ladies night or even like all I'm having a girl's name like oh cool like who's going to buy just and I'm the only guy and I'm like yeah like and she's like you're fine unlike %HESITATION I gonna like one of those like all girls nights which I mean most of my best friends are we saying that but like I remember it like in my head thinking that some of the two girls night and going and then like first of all just for all the straight man now better men women in groups don't like talk about men over deck as much as you would think that like you're not on her door and all so it's kind of interesting because it's like oh you're fine his our game it's like but we're not even talking about man right where having a regular car he'd been like if you buy me dinner and it was all women I would have not noticed it but wrong in a girls night out with that with that tone yeah it that's where it's kind of like you're putting me somewhere and stereotyping and that's not okay yeah but again like certain relationships can make it lend themselves to that type of conversation yeah like I owed by the bouncer a party in Las Vegas for my best friend yet exactly and it was so much fun totally and like I want to be invited to them but with my close friends yeah exactly alike home girl like at the desk at work like I don't know you very well yeah so even just like hanging out in general would be weird for me let alone you making this assumption like yeah I dress well but that doesn't mean I like to shop I do which sounds contradicting but he added some chance or especially when they want to like go out and find out when I go out with a gay man it's like I'm not know like taking like a drug of like a dose of gay in your life is okay dobby alerts like night out though like and there's safety their legs right you know you can go to a gay bar and and assumption is like of most of the guys are going to hit on me or I'm gonna feel little safer there maybe than another close yeah but it's the idea of like well this is my world down like base is not your world goal give me a drink and I'm gonna dance to Beyonce that there is it and is that a grease is girlfriend that where the it the gate guy in the show why Josh it's legal and he's like he's gained in the show yeah not in real life I know but he hasn't come out early to have you share I'm so sorry well I have to look forward to okay sorry about that but yeah he I believe he always complains that because they're going to a gay bar and he's just like his is the guy that goes with the mystery music will this and gave birth as women here and he's like did you think groups of women bridesmaids always come to gay bars and they're all like yelling like woohoo yeah he's like this other bars for you everywhere else yeah just hours of my life and I was glad because just like how it Justin as he does especially in Utah where bars are a limited number it's it's funny just because that kind of mentality of yeah let's do something crazy or then they're like plentiful has been had yeah what do you do in a normal bar where the guy had like all of them only his veto the leader of a man or a man that song of the same what's the word if you're straight yeah like we're not gonna like prey on you yeah it is our own right though I don't get it like they like Hey that's sick you sure like you're really handsome to anyone except my co workers say that all of my straight friend I know I'm like I love that outfit or like you look really good today yeah I just compliment people but it's yeah but you can't just go without like that idea polity of like this is my time and I'm gonna make it on me yeah allies on Jessica especially when not heard game legacy when you're like I'm going to stay put Dave are but I don't want any lesbians hit on me I contend leaned yeah I like on of this is also the bare space is well and you can write candies are safe places and if someone compliments you or like ask you like Hey look you're really beautiful I'd love to take you out like that's a compliment yeah that is in you have to say yes doesn't mean you have to like accept anyone like they might lose a baby like I live now yeah Willie it is also was also like a story of like this terror stories about people been like on my gosh is guy thought I was gay it that he was hitting on me while I was clearly shopping monocyte that's such a compliment yeah a Mike was when I worked in retail we see beautiful prison yeah we may have hang out help you a little more but don't don't yeah it down like don't like run away and like your act though you down the aisle that you have been for a bad I know I'm like and I'm like I went I call you for me boot cut Jean delisting gene there's like a welcome there's at least six women out there that are gonna swipe right because of it so yeah you're like Josh missed okay I'm I doubt that Josh that's what I did to the what's the last this number ten we've been just got we have been going okay well so what the US one I had was any kind of tire more to the to the lesbian community but have you ever had you so you've never had real sex you yeah okay in image but it also gave me the idea you can also be applied to many other people yeah but that's really crazy me to think that I some people have in this is the reason tells any team armor ads so I mean like to think that people have still constructed sex to be when a now he enters the the Jean Racine when the **** enters the **** or it penetrate when there is a giant of national penetration yeah that's the only definition inside yeah I'm asleep thus so archaic I'm also like not everyone likes sex no I mean asexual folks like tone that's the yeah ready and so like saying that like totally discredits those people also just because they are like two lesbian women like you don't know like the late their personal sex line it's kind of like the idea of like when people I think who are your top or bottom it's like I don't walk up to USA OD like sixty nine or missionary like right out the gate to yeah I'm just like when you ask these really personal questions of like sexual fantasy ask like it if like your clothes like I would ask you any day and we've talked about it because we're close somewhere sharing and we want to be found in open but there are some people who might have like again the traumatic experience and more they don't like sacks or they never had it before never have to that's a great point to warn they have like the craziest can give sacks and they want to tell you all about it so people are at it will lead lake intense vibrant colorful spectrum ran into just go right and you like I've never ever happen to you like wide now own I'm sure she'd like honestly like she probably orgasms more %HESITATION because street hetero men are really self and she only that women have like these crazy great battery very telling can I ask will like me need like after like the first like with me after at all if they have them they're like little round two and I'm like I have to have like pizza now it's like I'm like jealous yeah you're like me and and I can get behind but it's the or in front of it owners see hardeners yes I have don't say that to me all day and I just met you at all from within Islam is like O. J. you're good at the bottom I would like if I would hear like I hear it like telepathic Lee and I would do is materialize into being a fair like she's birth about a dead mother Mary mother that's amazing that's probably what's going to have a baby if we haven't they come back and have I mean the bruising quake proof she heard anyone make assumptions about my size role everybody looked like another terrible so yeah it's like like Belinda mom as she appears and you just got I mean yeah from my little rose that's amazing rose I thought you should call grows but anyway yeah that's really discredits like everyone's like personal experience with them and also like a real sax like what is that late for the guy finishing in two minutes and rolling over and falling asleep for like every man in the end we will not yeah we I can't make it yeah that you can make those sometimes that's crossed the I mean I guess I'd stare typing street man and college college girl out but you know why I don't know like but I don't guys they're like you know they know gas there isn't now chronicle and then pop and they're just like a list of my well being days is the most wrestler and I was going to propose I don't have yeah you do okay that's like other things like going to but no I mean that's like yeah I think that's I think the sex kat is questions do you like any of those things one is really intense lately yeah but it definitely you have to know the person and you also it can't just be like it's not a dirty secret that the person they are with a light and let them steer the conversation I've mentioned a few times like over all these tanned like statements are questions like let them see the conversation and get to know them better don't make assumptions don't **** shame either I just want I just realized that totally like if someone tells you they feel comes when others because they feel comfortable with that it doesn't mean that you walk away being like back girl or guy or whatever it is a hollow rightly day it's because the council telling yeah and they because they don't think you're going to judge them right you're trying to create that space of trusting and non judgment but then you're like like even faith like you know there's people have such vibrant sexual experiences to look totally different than you know like I'm like full transparency like you know this like I'm very kinky it when it comes to sex and I like some really maybe intense stuff that other people and I was real I just like you were playing piano sounds like yeah you know like maybe people don't like choking I love that you know what I mean like I'm totally comfortable saying that I'm not gonna say that to my mom like my dad yeah yeah like if you're like difficult like I would imagine like and I'm like yeah like I love it when a guy chokes me and then my straight friend or somebody else is like yeah like I totally love to be gagged and I'm like whoa it's like but I don't think of yeah I would definitely I don't think I've ever well the only to you and everyone was so again we we have so many years of like multiple layers that we have lots of like inside like jokes and one you seem like my one of my one of my friends they hang out late night leaving the more yeah yeah that the door early for domino there's like a little fine but that's a really good point trying not to slashing people even if it is a really and and cancer intense out of your experience on story or whatever and you can do is simply to say like whoa that's a really incredible story in it sounds like that was a lot of fun for you I have to be honest that's a little intense for me here and I think just moving forward like love you like you wherever you're at but probably not the best person I talked to this I'm like people being like the full transparency in like at tell me more I know I'm just like I'm not like that at I bought a Taurus man like yes yes I know I'm like do you like to be called flat with I'm interest that I would never outside to stay there yeah I would never believe you would know that I don't talk about that but I thought like he'd do you like to be called flat we know you are getting how do you feel about me name calling how do you feel about tying up which I'm also for yeah but I mean that that's as I can yeah respect that yet totally respect it like again going back to those ten questions review %HESITATION like try to avoid them it's not a big deal and if you like how should I totally ask the question trained Chris told me not to just be like oops I'm so sorry I should have asked that let's move on yeah I just don't answer the question I guess I'm so sorry and then they might be like oh no like if you're to say that meeting to me I'd be like oh girl like honey okay I really like I said earlier I mean I I thought it my leg and I think I'm I definitely buy more but when you when someone comes out to you or tell you something about their sexual orientation it really it's a new relationship at that point moving that view yeah and so you do have to out of reestablish the where we have to kind of figure out where it where lies yeah because I mean it's not as if I know you know I think you're getting ten and and so you have to really until those like questions that you think are so easy to asking are you going to be easy to answer are definitely not that and so you have to and that's our process is it's it's difficult for some easier for some others but it's %HESITATION some you have to like be like okay this is what's happening for us and that you know just be willing to like open those conversations I think the best thing anyone can do is set boundaries communicate expectations and that's river relationship but yeah I'm so serious but even like to hang like when you said that like that actually kind of hurt my feelings when you ask that man here's why yeah on both and so totally so those are the ten question and we intend that even as a one hour longer just because the of like guys now what we're gonna jump into one of our favorite parts of the podcast each episode is a game games games like that's what I thought I do do them for them so do you gays and as gay you have we're going to be serving a little bit of Mary a little bit of talk a little bit of fact a few times and never called back gods how yeah my god I love this game okay so the first one okay I just jump in and out of writing so Mary five **** a couple times %HESITATION never never call Matt Bomer K. bone yeah absolutely I Cheyenne Jackson okay and gas can't where they only Allah is so hard literally because they're also heart Jack is on the whole gosh okay I definitely marry Matt Bomer nope yes I what yeah now can for sure I would I guess I can't really change accent shy and once but like become best friends yeah but I'd **** that's gonna comes and then come back in only because he will marry he probably isn't that one really hot boyfriend has a now but like just like to leave him high and dry will be how little a little satisfaction I because because he's just so beautiful and like the world wants him you could lay just snap my Maggie I still get we met yeah like so that's that's that's what I can okay my my final interest at Skout okay your ID yeah if only does macaulay Culkin called in from like a whole legal all of it ger age I and do we'll why do Jewell is now Joe Lee ill of all that G. A. L. yellow white Jill Leo all white quite why would you give me what would you do that is going to go for an illegal why I would marry I would for five the legal and illegal I would **** home alone and I only know okay so I would I would marry chili ill just like a little Stever so we do whatever I wanted I would **** Haley Joel Osment I can say is ma'am I've ones never gone and then I would **** the home along with a few times never justified he could do some **** tied up some doors where did this but a lot to me thank you hunted him fracking around Mary fact **** a couple times and never call came Paul Ryan I own my pen Marco Rubio what what the dirty geo saying it's like in the street and I don't even doubt you I have like so many okay okay okay I would Mary Mike pence but that I would just like like Chicago cell block tango Mike where anything mind I ten times the tuition that's a miracle that the medical reference yeah she's a Peter green %HESITATION it I would I would if I **** more review once just like it like like I don't know take my money showers afterwards all in black that's true and then I spoke alright a couple times never call me again but then I would like yeah but then I calmed and again just a black male and I like that you need to leave the government and country and go to Siberia Goethe Cayman Islands where our reliance the shadows and trust me I look better than you yeah yeah the world will he have not one like photo of him like lifting the way which is like what kind of selective it flatly okay a girl yeah girl you yeah you evil anyway not on her act okay well until one OO this is okay so I went to child actors one hour ago and the other day I was like again listen forward okay Robert De Niro see for Lloyd okay a little Daddy mommy who Christopher Lloyd I need to look at a current photo of him and they just why are you **** kidding you throw numbers my Daddy's and then you're like only seen the phone one day I would it only **** him one I would **** Robert deniro a few times and never call Harrison Ford ho yeah for sure only gone as if not for Star Wars money just right alone with Frank Indiana Jones yeah I think there's a lot of role playing where that hat and nothing else Indiana yeah I'm like yes where's that we I think very disclosing tonight okay okay I have a quick one I but I think it's like I can see in him okay bye Joey Chandler and Ross you're going to judge me I go yeah I'm gonna marry Ross the trash are you I'm sorry my mind sorry I'm sorry you're right I'm so sorry he's smart he's scored he can support me like one running my nonprofit lays okay I would **** him there once and I would **** Jerry a few times and never come back I honestly do not I I mean this is a I did not think you go that route yeah I am in shock I'm shook as a prize bets Mary Chandler okay across one's %HESITATION but like I like how the **** want to like basically like the kill in the you know what we're like we know one one time and that's it we'd knocked over him the actor but the and then it died Joe he times because I mean he's got that light yeah he's got like a nice lower half and half that I think that I would get into a couple times just like tourists between nineteen and not in the rapid fire questions you know thousand really calling on my right at the light okay so that if for season everyone first of all I I really I mean I see this all the time but thank you for listening honestly it's been so crazy to hear and see and witness all my because what this part has been for other people only gosh it's been so fun it has been like so much fun Sir Graham messages lake random Facebook Matthew borrowing the gives us because I I answer questions about yeah they have them unless you want your advice from my qualified but I sure about people's lives so yes thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you like I said last time tell a few friends about it they'll have a few minds to listen to all ten after the catch up get to the moving with and we're gonna be doing some of them yeah I mean season modeling you'll see a sign so Paul was on all of the accounts and Instagram %HESITATION Facebook and Twitter it's M. fram podcasts threat %HESITATION and it you know and the it's in Kenya chat and with that so at preparing his next month so we'll we'll pre launch back in June just in time for pride mine and now we got a in the meantime obviously I'm going to tie line for a little bit but we also wanted to take some time to you know interview some folks said some really cool yeah like that some content going we want to play around with our social media accounts a little bit more where we're not having a previous episode that we can focus on that we want to build on our website and so there's a lot of like little fun projects as season one has been so far has been so fun but it's just the beginning Elena's yeah they begin it is they gave me all of these growing growing season gaining her crown she's gave me her crown I am now I'm gonna make a list of these days how can I use day and everyday wear okay so wrapping up what way is one of your favorite moments from all of season one all ten episodes OMAP Peters in excuse good luck you DZ love is the you reels there you asked me if I wanted to mention when I do I'm just waiting for the engagement ring why make maker and on his country will all be living up to your faith talked and not it's okay yeah yeah yeah man he's fine yeah what was your favorite my fever was just this weird joke in the morning a lot of people got in on it lick lick you I was like like the one of the guys to do god's love like this is so funny to be in love that I would like you to get out the more it's actually pretty progressive yeah just like that weird like I just bought like a surer like if you if you wanna make me answer it with like the morning at like I was I am like so much merchandise mentally I though if someone wanted to just like Hey if you want if that means Sir with the morning on a I'm a size medium slide entered yeah send your address as well papers it but yeah I'll pay for **** I don't care I want more you certainly made into mowing or like parting into mind at the moment is for lovers that you would get like a map had two of them right honestly if this part has made the bag I would a hundred percent it like an outline out yeah the little dog yeah my dad challenge I'm gonna make it happen that is my gosh okay have to leave I hope this is goodbye thank you that into the woods when he's singing to John anyway I do I have to say and you because it is so sad okay do you you just feel captive on are in that category we can do that in June a **** time sponsors yeah as so makes the

 

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You remember hearing about the tragic divorce between Channing Tatum and Jenna Dewan? Well I'm sitting here with the reason behind it all. Queens and boys, meets Channing's newest  beau and hopefully his last, and my co host, Trent Morrison    Yes, it's true, we're together. He's currently on the bed! Ahhh, he's so great! Channing  how are you? I'm good thanks! Yeah... Jenna doing all right? That's good! Alright, alright, I'm currently writing his biography titled "How The Fuck Do You Eat So Much Pizza and Still Have Abs? The Chris Glaittli story!" I really hope by the title of my biography albeit I really hope you're right the bike is that the the intro the bio the forward the fall where the four when I'm writing the biography so also for sale on a tour exclusive copies in the morning where are the first band I cannot wait to get over there on the edge of my seat so this is our tenth episode my gosh episode of mask for everyone number ten so we've got some little things today for everybody to celebrate number one zero this is ten weeks people you've been listening to my soul the boys from we you move into my stupid as laughter and we broke in math to get like my like I was telling someone like I have a podcast lab they like what I was like yeah it's kind of like a I would try not to laugh like so aggressively you know Phoebe Robinson's yeah I know when you hang out with them a lot and if you start to mimic a lot yeah I would I listen to their podcast when you're yeah but when I do you believe that I really though and I live by the rob it's a great loss I'm okay a monkey with a doctor I left a year in %HESITATION was going to say how houses during being for you it has been from what I've been so excited to jump back into podcasting and to just have the gas time with you and the gate is it's just been such a blast and it has been so crazy because we your birthday was last weekend at and we had a we had a great time to add classic skating yes we did a little nineties roller I'm not really I was good you're amazing but well I was your co workers you I came to the to the party everyone was talking about the podcast death it was crazy to like here they're McCall episode of things like this stupid **** that I've said I don't like that yeah unlike lobby me like I should not it's about yeah but totally and even like with my co workers he brought this and I'm like and please don't tell a job like this is on me you need to look into this podcast like you would any other I think talk a long can't report me that's not creating a buyer I was second no I mean it was it was so cool to hear but it also by but yeah I think that it in any other capacity yeah I think that I wouldn't admit to being led out doing a blanket so so quick yeah divide easily but yeah that's what it's been so much fun because it's like having a combo if you're BL that has totally to Gaby FF yeah yeah I think you may be right and yeah yeah it's like the best so ten episode yeah yeah so much in common but like what are we talking there's a lot we took one last episode yet so we're doing what we talked about that and I'm like you know me more than my yes they were gonna do some season just so we get a moment to breathe we love making content we just wanna make sure we have some time to you know think a little bit more and an experience that so smart and one of us going to Thailand and no one of us next week yeah I'm so excited I see though the grossing because you're leaving me but I mean yeah so can be so high and warm and I'm just already ready for it I've got like five speedos ready why they were assaulted by ironic swim this ironic on Thursday so I don't bother anyone in this week's knows he's going to town for issued actually with they want realistic bodies about everyday Americans that's why I'm in a this is the episode ten asked one of the season and so we want to do ten questions you should ask LGBTQ folks never ask me never speak about because listen up girl we don't like them our bus they don't want to hear them anymore it is two thousand eighteen I mean it's shocking honestly but I mean I'm not around as much but I know these questions still have and yeah unlike Jessica did you really does not only not really come Monica Matt leaned out seriously so we're gonna go through what we do wanna preface like some of these questions might not seem like that harmful and and harmful is a big word but you might not even think twice about it but we hope like this conversation we want to kind of explain a little bit why you should be a little more cautious you've probably heard Chris and I ask each other these questions even on this podcast but we don't see or what you don't now is ours six years of multi layered super in depth relationship and also there's a thing called insider privilege yes answer both identifying gay man like there's certain things that we can ask because we're in this community whereas if you're outside at your look and then there's some things maybe it just their owners Sabse yeah you should take it verses just jumping right into something yeah when it %HESITATION it this is there but this is not just like you know we finance someone's gay it or you know there was you know a part of that spectrum like to to just jump in and throw questions at them when they may not be comfortable with themselves even have to assume a bunch of things about them now they told you one aspect about them totally it like it's really intense and especially if you feel as a like what were best friends over super close I can ask these things yeah that's not when they come out to you it's the it's a new relations yeah and you should be very well and I'm exactly and of course these are personal perspectives that I mean it's control copy for the entire LGBT giving community life is either talk yeah I chose because I I cannot take on that bird I am the beautiful spokesperson for around but not for the entire though so I'll jump in with my first we each prepared five question and so ten total at because yeah they really do that I love a good theme today's sponsored by Sesame Street is the number ten so my first question is how did you come out so I live good like how did I come out right will that question doesn't seem that her for a lot of folks like myself included I am an open book someone asked me like my name I'm like I'm trying to came out when I was twenty six you know what I mean except that that I came out I can get my but it is what you don't realize it is a lot of people's stories are well not a lot of people every person stories so personal yeah and some of them can be really tragic oh yeah so it that would be a quota of being like why don't you have a dad when your dad died rightly that's like a really intense thing a good positive way in my perspective it if you really want to know that story if you want to take get to know that aspect of them because you know a lot of times the more you get to know someone team they typically will open up yeah with their coming out story if they're comfortable sharing and so that's something you do want to now always let that person guide the conversation oh yeah so ask questions and make sure you're creating a good environment where you're safe place where you they can trust you and I get a good definition of trust that I always plug is by Bernie brown and she breaks down in one of her Ted talks the anatomy of trust she has an acronym called briefing to help define try so its boundaries reliability accountability vault integrity non judgment and generosity and so that's kind of like a layered approach of how you define trust and so when you're creating a trusting place for that person to you tell there really personal story sometimes like I said tragic sometimes exciting and like amazing and yeah the whole family leave the LDS church because it's so toxic and they're like in pride with you and not everyone has that story definitely not everyone so part of that acronym is a vault the V. of briefing and that essentially says like I can trust that person to keep my secrets and not tell other people but also like I know they're not gonna tell me other people's secrets yeah that makes sense so if you truly do want to know someone's like how they came out story other coming out story my biggest advice is just to let them steer the ship just letting them like open up disclose information in a good way is to also disclose information everyone comes out in some sort of way Elgin times that the lines in lengths is like totally it to some people little bit and you know inch by inch to like the full everyone their lives but sometimes they don't yeah now I can all wants now so that's like my biggest advice if you want to know that just let them serve the ship yeah I got a light in the even then like I am very like just throw it out there because I definitely can you and me all three I like to last me like how to happens like man his to happen and you know I'm lucky but I I yeah there is you know and there's that the huge and this isn't even like back then about like the you know the gay homeless teens there could have totally unleashed after they were came out that mounts them or you know and so she's crazy because you have to like respect that story total session one even if it happens like at a young age you still have to like it's hard yeah my question is why is it so I went silently looking up research questions and I would and I kind of got on this like things never ask %HESITATION women your gay lesbians okay and %HESITATION the one because that was like it was like on all of them was who's the man relations it also applies to gay men as well I mean like to I mean anyone them because that's like such a crazy insane thing to ask a person but to women especially and the other one article called that I read like that that it was like that it's the header by who's mentally ship in the for things like %HESITATION were not named were too **** women yeah and I was like hell yeah you are yeah so it's just like that's a really good like don't ask yes other kind of crown ask so another question and we can kind of snowballed as like the third questioner the third statement but mine was who's gonna be the mom when you have kids and it's that same idea like I had one of my really good friends parents asked me when I was talking about well yeah like I want kids that other like well he's going to be the mom like he's gonna stay home %HESITATION like play them a local mall right got a question like who's the man who's the one man first of all gender is such a spectrum so not everyone identifies on a binary yeah let's include non binary folks in this country and just also understanding that all of these like ideals we have is bill off the picture keys back as well has heteronormative ideals so so that's a lot but we really I mean it's it was is crazy to me to think that like the idea of the other masculine within which is the whole point of our progress first place but that you you still put that by a new generation ships yeah and then you ask them to tell you which one they're gonna be for and it's almost the tone sounds like the man is the first and the montage women is like the second hearing that yeah and that's like the home keep I my height exactly is like no yeah I should be easy I'm running G. Q. yeah he's doing some lawyer I yeah I like it our kids will be great me just like I know but it doesn't it never it doesn't occur to me but especially in that sense that's just really nice to me yeah I don't know I was very much like is ask question what the hell would I say that but I was and I was like oh lesbian if I was a woman who was either within the woman I mean I haven't even imagined like that still being a pain right I don't know but it is or even link non binary like you're sitting there and someone asks them might owe so who's the and they look at the partner and they might look a certain way and they assign a gender yeah not only like is they don't even ask you just assume they like as soon your gender black white and then they also the senior partners gender this like two yeah and is the only get like a moose lake function of like hetero lake hierarchy and you're just like just just don't also yeah I feel like you can't do this because this is it in flexing gave parents like it they like just look at them be light and see like there can be like oh yeah he's definitely the more right you're yeah I felt like what since then she has short hair she's obviously the right data yeah and it is hard again speaking to insider privilege like sometimes like what kind of girl or like lesbian women watch like it refer to each other like but sure there's a lot of my time on all like insider privilege terms that again like we can use because our part of the community and we're using them as like flipping them upside down and not allowing them that presses anymore but making fun of them or read it engaging the word and what it means that you can't but like you can't just Emily jumped into the outside using that dictionary words just because your friend is it game me okay yeah I it is by my friend give like in that kind of the real like and I I met you last week I am so sorry Ali I'd be best friends with any okay what's the for it statement that you have because I can I jump my third on the I am so I was still was on this like women yeah women track with this in la and like the lesbian community a lot because I I just love them on so the one the other one was like so you like girls so you must hate men now brother I'm like haha that's right and it's I think it's really funny because I've also met some gay guys %HESITATION you know men who have been like of gross like a woman's **** and you know who's sick and and it's kind of like okay you dont to say like that again not yours at the money more right in women and not your thing and that's you know great totally fine call but it's either it is mean you hate another Jedi are because of that and there's the women and and how strong they are and and essentially just like the women in in like let me communion are prominent figures in like society in the media and everything like it doesn't mean that they hate men it's just like they're not there are charges yeah I don't want to be partnered with that right person any that just it just is crazy because like you know I'm not I mean it's not as if yeah you're just going around being like going on the you know the local I. have no target you you grow and grow well yeah I mean it does now yeah yeah that's not your thing and the vice versa wouldn't happen for men you're like well yeah that he's a man so he has discussing your like that's not how it works yeah so you don't just assume that the just because someone's gay the means they hate the gender the knowledge track to to status is backwards thinking yeah and there is yet no I worship to many women yeah way too many unlike high this morning my shuffle on and my apple music start out with the launch then it was only shot than it was beyond say that it was his who often are to nominate and I was like god I don't like these women and I know I'm blast from above like women women anyway right exactly you know so you should be like because that's them but you like you do you should see a round yeah just filler fantasy don't poop on anyone else's seriously though and and to your point about you know well you must hit all man it's like a like don't make those assumptions down great lake don't assume like because I'm not dating who you think I should be is because I hate them I guess in like most of the things LGBTQ community at like what they're doing is from love and wanting love I think most people I've interacted with is like we're doing this because I love this group yeah we're we're marching because I love this group and I want them to have equal rights yeah we're doing this because I want to be able to marry the person I love so don't assume like stuff is from Haiti and I've had a few people in my life family or entonces who are no longer in my life had mentioned link all like after you came out like your heart was filled with hate and that was like a religious connotation I was like really that's fine because I'm the opposite as though it's like this option and so weird and just again like get to know someone asked them what their passion about and maybe they will say I'm really passion about hating men end okay mean that's what but don't make that assumption right and I think that especially like now or like how we've talked about so many queens in our lives out in the in the past and the past episodes in in just like appreciating the the spectrum of beauty we have especially now on all John legend actuality yeah it's just fine because you you're able to just look at a person in their entirety regardless of these you know durable hateful connotation of the I mean in previous times and just be like that person is higher beautiful or sexy whatever just yeah like that fluidity is so much more fun and so much more le and appreciated then %HESITATION Yalla those are some of the some of that yeah she's crazy total years which okay so my next one I think this is like number five number five is OMG you should date my other day frat and I'll tell you I have gone and there's so many times being a gay man in years time as you know whose single people are like oh like single hood like in Utah specially like I'm twenty seven now and people are like the thirties that can like to rate their and like everyone gets married at twelve here so there's like this expectation of being partnered or coupled or whatever and so I get this question a lot of like burn your statement rather than a friend I'm and might follow up to that is like %HESITATION tell me about him and I think well he's gay I might go on well well maybe I don't know him that well I'm like oh so you're making the assumption because about two gay men who are single will like each other first of all I like I like a lot of people and I'm open to friendship but it's gonna take a special man to remove that okay I am as that man in my ways he knows what he wants and its not accepting for anything less island me I've never been set up by a friend like ever her I've heard that before of like usually meet this guy and like %HESITATION he's a he's a he's clearly gave you a lot and I'm just like clear a bad night okay yeah so like I never set up by laying out that kind of windy but I remember one time I we were like my friends out together and I was checking out a guy and they were like oh Chris come on that side type and like you're like well I like it I love the gnome years yeah but also what yeah I like used to it was really funny but I like my friends the the you know straight friends I have there are really you do you like they're able to aid you tear you also able to defy my type super yeah we now but I feel like it's also the idea that not every guy the needs can be gay but when the meeting gay guy there like all I have a house of again friend yeah I know and it's just it's kind of like you don't want to token as our friend but and you do that when you just left immediately totally put like that the very basic level out of similarity like they are both attracted to the same gender is out there they clearly are going to these other ethnic in this like question is probably late it's not from a place of like %HESITATION I hate this person some gonna all or none of these like you're being done yeah so the problem with that question is there's a lot of assumptions right a lot of these questions involved quite a few layers of assumptions so with this one like you should take my friend because he's gay the assumption of AA that that person wants to be set up on dates yeah so I a simple thing as Hey are you dating anyone date you know will answer Hey why are you interested in being set up they will answer if yes then you say okay what type of person would you like to go on dates with and then they can explain characteristics are physical trait or whatever they're attracted to and then you can do if you really want to set up your friend make sure this line up before like yeah gate check some applying the up so just a few ways to navigate back if you're wanting to play matchmaker for your case friend or breeches shirt if they want it like if if they're open and yeah I really asking are you even are the even looking to yeah well or we know and helping like that and they're like you know at some filters on to the search of lay there and I know both of you individually anything like your personality to match really well yeah I've never sent someone out on a date that I didn't think I could date rate so it's like oh there's a straight person hears a straight person they should go date like I know a lot of single straight people say they've never been like a year straight so with my friend John like when you measure day yeah I actually don't know any St John's if I'm being honest but Justin yeah so it just like navigating that a little more it delicately or lately yeah I guess is it's just like getting to know the type of partner they're looking for asking them if they're open to dating or being set up pretty simple very simple I like the idea of adding filters to the searching getting that through because I think that if you know a person even like you know close dear friends of them you can you can kind of make those and get those kind of down bread for you but yeah it's socially when you just like your day he's gay she's gay year has just it's gonna work just data gathering yeah I like it it's never that great and then it's like the other and like that person you set up and the other guy I give that person we will know what you've done that and now that it's like they've bonded because of like that yeah like love you but not great which is how I would do those I really I love you but that was yeah that's just better knowledge of you better know yet don't put me down for blind date yeah yeah well equipped their next numbers so %HESITATION with this one I actually have heard from people in my own and I do I hate it but I've heard it before so why isn't there straight pride parade I'm gonna go jump out because I can not every month is can you can you look at me are popping right yeah I think it's crazy though because I think it happens like it right when the pride it like managing arts rolling there is always that one person on Facebook that you haven't spoken to since like you sign their your book in two thousand seven only and yeah I yeah I may people the babies look like why I'm wide there straight pride parade hi I'm sorry you and a few men killed for he will and I and I remember like we talked about drag queens in that light the just the powerful said they dine I just remember you know if someone asked me that I would like go like I would just go crazy like Facebook fi pull out the earrings and I'm like hold my who burned burned my finger to it because I was typing so I would just yeah I all yeah it's like is it just it just this is a crazy being to hear and it kind of it also goes back bill if you if you like even if you don't say that exact question but you are like okay what is the big deal about pride right or what is the big deal about missing and why you know why do we closed streets and have that aids in or I had a friend was like hair click you dressed up pretty slutty and go that I had the pride parade in like dance around can I come with you and I was like only guys who use the straight system that height of a lot of yeah right I always leaving church now yeah and I have like my like pride alpha in my car and I was where I need to downtown beating really this break milling stripping off my clothes met drive who data and say if I was like throwing on this team that much as I dislike calling card on my son because of the crisis slam my partner and I was like he sees this as me right around this is to be here right so it's like it exactly to your point like it might not be like out what life there straight pride but going doing the research though is so easy deadline literally you so important yeah just like it just like do little Google search yeah save yourself like some late stress or you know Google is around for a reason you don't have to put all the emotional burden on here LGBTQ plus friendly you can just say like what's the history of gay pride month yeah or pride month rather just stay but what's the history of pride month and you're gonna find a lot of sources that help you understand me trans women of color for starting the my chest on Wall understanding like the beautiful rich and colorful history of the LGBTQ movement and where it still needs to go and you'll honestly probably be sobbing because it's so gorgeous and painful really amazing and I think that like that's always where I get to is that like you it's almost more easier to redo the research by yourself yes %HESITATION versus putting someone on the spot yet again because then you think that that one gay person your life is this is this yeah I'd like the fountain of knowledge playing and like even just from this podcast one like I learned to live same and like only appreciated more the LGBT community but like I mean some people ask me questions and some guys that we have him listed right I'm like I have a no clue may I don't I don't ride I saw can't something apart right now that's not any Syrian and that's the beauty of like you rule in researching is that there's so many like vote people can post their voices and that actually speak for those are facets of the key as you teach me community and you can read them and you can interpret and you can hear the conversations and threads and it's really cool circling that re kind of research is super important but also like a straight pipe ray would be like just like a lot of cargo shorts and I'm Noah Wyle yeah yeah I'm like a little while a one club older on a Wednesday pulling in back pay well an insider privilege pride is a little bit in its intense there's a lot happening in the big party to celebrate and rooted they and the history of the like you said is really beautiful and so it's like seeing it verses researching it are yeah and just like we know your space like come to pride parade absolutely like coda pride events support like a local cities pride but no like where like how you fit in with that yeah right so if you have a gay friend their company like my company sponsors pride every year and we do a flow and I invite all my friends I'm like Hey let come with me if you want to walk in the parade front rows like see you know you get a dance with me because that's the type of person I am yeah think come with me if you don't have that just like %HESITATION like while I check in jewel a you know Google or ask questions in a in a good way edit and get to know that a community a little bit better yeah is ever like at the river like and shove you in the door out now it's like always been this open gate kind of recently gate it's inclusive gate with a hammer but yeah it is and you just go to the fair the vessels and and you can see it and interpret it and it was a lot of fun I love pride me to like so much fun and and I haven't had to wear anything crazy because as I have seen that but people also go all out total and I love it yeah there's such a specter I love it yeah yeah okay so that is the next question I have is or rather yet to question it where all the hot Wednesday so in Jersey right I like it like Instagram tags or like messages out of money stray you why girlfriends her sister under it I love all of you know I really do but these are just a gentle reminders that there's beautiful people in every sexual orientation I got you know what I mean like let's just not assume like all the hot ones are gay kids honey like I've been on a lot of dates are I've seen a lot of folks like on the apps not my Cup of tea also don't want to yuck someone Dion but they're not all they're not all hot and you definitely don't want to ever like say that I like hiking to be straight here just like I mean that it's it's that it almost sounds like just change your mind yeah it's like you know you're so disappointing yeah I'll look like setting it's like I am so used to it inside Tony of disappointment and like also if I was straight don't just assume I would be attracted to you I'm sorry if I went straight guys are like we have retracted to me bro online like look in the mirror now your cargo shorts not knowing where I just don't like a cargo shorts to much bulky mess but I will what do you put those extra **** parking and now I have I'm sorry I get so mad late show some vegan treats that I make any sense I would prefer a **** pack I mean at least at the Arab league down so the for that one just don't ask that day and it just like you know don't project your own dating and securities on me as a gay man yeah I can't find anyone on moral and gambling I'm single as well like and I'm also not just basing my dating filters on how bad we don't go to like your wife your girlfriend is be like %HESITATION land you a man and so it is good to know you're ready to go broad just be like a hot head you have a **** why don't you stay right out of the game yeah I'd like to really %HESITATION okay maybe like I think it's likely Adam stuff okay what's your next my next one is %HESITATION it but he used to date boys but I also go to used today girls so like if you're like gay or lesbian and their land or you know whatever like you used to date used to date your yeah so for me at the stereo type right like Houston eight girls Transcon yeah so hide right now and change and adapt and discover who they are and it's such a journey is a jerk I got there I mean it goes like that you know originally is is that you have to respect that process regardless if it whatever the outcome is if you're straight I'm gonna I'm gonna miss the respect your process of figuring out your straight math but it's like five years later you're Kissin into heat I am poorer every year what war taught Jack was yeah here for awhile let's I'm like itself like a bowl full of my I hope you're kissing a guy who I had not yeah but no call me in two thousand and twenty three that gets some years when they're about waiting for you here I yeah yeah it's it's a game it's like you know you see you know you there's so many people and they come out whatever they want to mean I was nineteen twenty four totalling some people I mean there thank their D. make you know they they had kids or yeah I like %HESITATION it if they don't get you know and it's just like Dow process and then to be like we used to date except so why are you dating by and it's like that was not a day that frame can now you're all the horrors you know what I mean like did your dating another friend I'm is low like the name dropping yeah I'm feeling very good about like a little bit of a TV show yeah unless growing as a frame character some Karen there's some Paul and Linda's we had no idea but yes exactly that crazy it's again it's like these like such strict pillars or constructs that it's like things change and things are flew it and it's like I you know I used to date white men and I've had sex with women and I still would if like there's another man involved in so there's parameters that people discover that they like or dislike and at the end of the day like it's not our job to judge someone for being straight no not someone's job for you know a straight person it's not their job to judge us for quote unquote changing the act but rather discovering who we are and and the people are attracted to and the people we want to live for and up way experience yeah it's it's like I I I would hope that someone feel comfortable to to talk to me about something they experience and I would be like you know and is it not that tone shouldn't you just because you do it to someone else you hope it isn't the I the you don't give out too so you know you have to established you know that I trust and that kind of idea of you're not coming from was a judge me just like tell me about a year a change purse saying that and you know you can kind of go from there but that's the whole reason of growing up yeah totally and so it's like that non judge man aspect of that briefing Akron I'm gonna make I'm gonna allow space for you to express things that you enjoy and that you've experienced and I'm just gonna let it set and I'm gonna you know respect that now and they'll tell you and you know that doesn't mean you have to agree with that but yeah I like if you're like a staunch Republican not sure it was the most podcasts but we love yeah but you know it doesn't mean you have to like a hundred percent agree but like still being respectful and and same frustrating I mean I should be respectful like my friends who are nineteen a joke a lot like I have friends who got married really young and the LDS church may joke a lot with them because they joke with me about it yeah but it's like I at the time like I told we try to respect like that decision of we're getting married and I'm like okay like your nineteen that in my experience might not scenes really intense but I'm you know I'm gonna I'm gonna respect it and I'm going to wish you the best well and I think that also for those who are every here listening and you are you know a part of the community our community and if you like I know my friend so my friends are straight of my guy friends that I mean they've been it's been lately there they ask me am I am I dating anyone and ask how's life because that was the guys and selling CD and I'm always like terrible account but but I but like but like %HESITATION it but you know I'll talk about dates I've been on but I won't just go into a full like when our conversation of like exact the last sex I had rank you know and so kind of respecting yeah someone else's lines and boundaries and in you know kind of with it you know just because they're like house dating you're just like all while part of this group yeah saying yeah on my nose you've heard about it right fist thing for the first what changed again yeah and you know going right into a it's not I mean you're not acting as founder yeah you know I think shell to yourself but I think that yeah I kind of kind of is that both ways where as like you and I or even like my real talk about until the sun until the car what the hell is that yet like yours grow that we're like I do have some straight friends and we're really open about our sexual experiences yeah like me really good friend Abigail and I like have conversations and is so like for her like I would feel comfortable disclosing because I know it's comfortable for her so again it's setting those boundaries it's respecting people's boundaries that they've sat and having open communication might well like that was a really intense yeah like thing to say and I'm happy that you had that experience I don't know if I'm the right person to share that with yeah I remember one friend and I was an eight day I just you know I looked over I mean this is my my exactly my assumption that was just like a weird been close for years I I can tell him anything service he did tell him I go into detail about an experience I had and he like he merely like yeah his body language like I was like well I don't think I am so sorry I I think I even had a really bad love yeah but I don't I don't know if I'm like I don't want to hear that I was like right at the and then then the occasion is like I don't want to hear what you did yeah probably well I we need every character yeah maybe that yeah maybe one went out there okay the last one I have number nine was we should go shopping can we have a girls night okay I had a real experience or not you know times click and you know what we're gonna go along and that's when it's number ten number ten got no what you but you can we've got hurt right classical longer yes that we heard okay literally what she said here BRB yes so there aren't we did that well Paul and it was just barely leaning towards a shorter so sorry all you can listen to this like next week at this end of part one and we're not splitting it up but he was right there is the questioning go to part two well I'm just saying if you don't want anymore we've had forty minutes late hit pause and pick up next week calf so the question number nine was we should go shopping rate but can we have a girls night so out one of my company as it was in a pretty conservative company down in link like the Lehigh area which is really conservative in that company as one of the token gaze which was exhausting and so I had a boyfriend at the time of the company holiday party and he came with me like my whole team is super great like left my team there and there's like two thousand people there so it's like okay of course like thing and bring my boyfriend and you know introducing him to a lot of folks in this great lovely evening of it some minor tweaks has nothing to story but I would change anything but so then the next day I get into work and the front desk girl like sorry women she's like nineteen some college lives in that area and like probably never met a gay person in our life she's like my gosh you and Andrew are so cute all my gosh did other than other than that and I was like I you know I've had a lot of fun dating him like you know we're getting to know each other so it's still new and fun as you think we should all go shopping and I was like and I don't know right but if you know me I love shopping yeah and like my other coworkers Celeste like I would be shopping with her like a drop like right now she called me and yet Chris we're recording this late I'm going shopping with the last so I'm going with you yeah exactly but it's like that establish relationships so she just made the assumption that like all gay men like to shop or that we all have style he was very well dressed we had like the same style as they mature sizing pant like I was like oh missed the closet this works yeah like just like that assumption out first and but the thing is like he didn't he doesn't like love shopping like cocoa like and maybe it's changed a little bit for him now but like at the time as I can like let's go shopping and he's like OK so this is like the assumption like all gay men love to shop and are good at it lord no fashion very well that's where my issue as an again simply getting to know someone and building that relationship like an easy thing was like Hey I'm going shopping I'm looking for this this or that like do you like to go shopping by any chance yeah and if you like away totally do I still don't know you that well so I might be like I'm busy which is like approaching it in a different way of like we should have a girls night her alike let's do you like a shopping spree like you'll give me a makeover any of those things like again link I would love to do those with like a lot of my close friends and I might even say that to you or some of our other gay friends like let's have a girls night yeah but that's like different like I don't I don't want like any know that sounds weird and confusing but again like we keep saying about like the insider privilege where I'm like oh like we can call each other that because like growing up my brothers were coming that girly or flake says the thank god like none of complex matter but heck a lot and I would like to put people at school date in Russia which is like kind of taking that and be like oh girl like me and then my love for drag race of course so it's just like that idea of like all gay men love shopping all make a we can have a ladies night or even like all I'm having a girl's name like oh cool like who's going to buy just and I'm the only guy and I'm like yeah like and she's like you're fine unlike %HESITATION I gonna like one of those like all girls nights which I mean most of my best friends are we saying that but like I remember it like in my head thinking that some of the two girls night and going and then like first of all just for all the straight man now better men women in groups don't like talk about men over deck as much as you would think that like you're not on her door and all so it's kind of interesting because it's like oh you're fine his our game it's like but we're not even talking about man right where having a regular car he'd been like if you buy me dinner and it was all women I would have not noticed it but wrong in a girls night out with that with that tone yeah it that's where it's kind of like you're putting me somewhere and stereotyping and that's not okay yeah but again like certain relationships can make it lend themselves to that type of conversation yeah like I owed by the bouncer a party in Las Vegas for my best friend yet exactly and it was so much fun totally and like I want to be invited to them but with my close friends yeah exactly alike home girl like at the desk at work like I don't know you very well yeah so even just like hanging out in general would be weird for me let alone you making this assumption like yeah I dress well but that doesn't mean I like to shop I do which sounds contradicting but he added some chance or especially when they want to like go out and find out when I go out with a gay man it's like I'm not know like taking like a drug of like a dose of gay in your life is okay dobby alerts like night out though like and there's safety their legs right you know you can go to a gay bar and and assumption is like of most of the guys are going to hit on me or I'm gonna feel little safer there maybe than another close yeah but it's the idea of like well this is my world down like base is not your world goal give me a drink and I'm gonna dance to Beyonce that there is it and is that a grease is girlfriend that where the it the gate guy in the show why Josh it's legal and he's like he's gained in the show yeah not in real life I know but he hasn't come out early to have you share I'm so sorry well I have to look forward to okay sorry about that but yeah he I believe he always complains that because they're going to a gay bar and he's just like his is the guy that goes with the mystery music will this and gave birth as women here and he's like did you think groups of women bridesmaids always come to gay bars and they're all like yelling like woohoo yeah he's like this other bars for you everywhere else yeah just hours of my life and I was glad because just like how it Justin as he does especially in Utah where bars are a limited number it's it's funny just because that kind of mentality of yeah let's do something crazy or then they're like plentiful has been had yeah what do you do in a normal bar where the guy had like all of them only his veto the leader of a man or a man that song of the same what's the word if you're straight yeah like we're not gonna like prey on you yeah it is our own right though I don't get it like they like Hey that's sick you sure like you're really handsome to anyone except my co workers say that all of my straight friend I know I'm like I love that outfit or like you look really good today yeah I just compliment people but it's yeah but you can't just go without like that idea polity of like this is my time and I'm gonna make it on me yeah allies on Jessica especially when not heard game legacy when you're like I'm going to stay put Dave are but I don't want any lesbians hit on me I contend leaned yeah I like on of this is also the bare space is well and you can write candies are safe places and if someone compliments you or like ask you like Hey look you're really beautiful I'd love to take you out like that's a compliment yeah that is in you have to say yes doesn't mean you have to like accept anyone like they might lose a baby like I live now yeah Willie it is also was also like a story of like this terror stories about people been like on my gosh is guy thought I was gay it that he was hitting on me while I was clearly shopping monocyte that's such a compliment yeah a Mike was when I worked in retail we see beautiful prison yeah we may have hang out help you a little more but don't don't yeah it down like don't like run away and like your act though you down the aisle that you have been for a bad I know I'm like and I'm like I went I call you for me boot cut Jean delisting gene there's like a welcome there's at least six women out there that are gonna swipe right because of it so yeah you're like Josh missed okay I'm I doubt that Josh that's what I did to the what's the last this number ten we've been just got we have been going okay well so what the US one I had was any kind of tire more to the to the lesbian community but have you ever had you so you've never had real sex you yeah okay in image but it also gave me the idea you can also be applied to many other people yeah but that's really crazy me to think that I some people have in this is the reason tells any team armor ads so I mean like to think that people have still constructed sex to be when a now he enters the the Jean Racine when the **** enters the **** or it penetrate when there is a giant of national penetration yeah that's the only definition inside yeah I'm asleep thus so archaic I'm also like not everyone likes sex no I mean asexual folks like tone that's the yeah ready and so like saying that like totally discredits those people also just because they are like two lesbian women like you don't know like the late their personal sex line it's kind of like the idea of like when people I think who are your top or bottom it's like I don't walk up to USA OD like sixty nine or missionary like right out the gate to yeah I'm just like when you ask these really personal questions of like sexual fantasy ask like it if like your clothes like I would ask you any day and we've talked about it because we're close somewhere sharing and we want to be found in open but there are some people who might have like again the traumatic experience and more they don't like sacks or they never had it before never have to that's a great point to warn they have like the craziest can give sacks and they want to tell you all about it so people are at it will lead lake intense vibrant colorful spectrum ran into just go right and you like I've never ever happen to you like wide now own I'm sure she'd like honestly like she probably orgasms more %HESITATION because street hetero men are really self and she only that women have like these crazy great battery very telling can I ask will like me need like after like the first like with me after at all if they have them they're like little round two and I'm like I have to have like pizza now it's like I'm like jealous yeah you're like me and and I can get behind but it's the or in front of it owners see hardeners yes I have don't say that to me all day and I just met you at all from within Islam is like O. J. you're good at the bottom I would like if I would hear like I hear it like telepathic Lee and I would do is materialize into being a fair like she's birth about a dead mother Mary mother that's amazing that's probably what's going to have a baby if we haven't they come back and have I mean the bruising quake proof she heard anyone make assumptions about my size role everybody looked like another terrible so yeah it's like like Belinda mom as she appears and you just got I mean yeah from my little rose that's amazing rose I thought you should call grows but anyway yeah that's really discredits like everyone's like personal experience with them and also like a real sax like what is that late for the guy finishing in two minutes and rolling over and falling asleep for like every man in the end we will not yeah we I can't make it yeah that you can make those sometimes that's crossed the I mean I guess I'd stare typing street man and college college girl out but you know why I don't know like but I don't guys they're like you know they know gas there isn't now chronicle and then pop and they're just like a list of my well being days is the most wrestler and I was going to propose I don't have yeah you do okay that's like other things like going to but no I mean that's like yeah I think that's I think the sex kat is questions do you like any of those things one is really intense lately yeah but it definitely you have to know the person and you also it can't just be like it's not a dirty secret that the person they are with a light and let them steer the conversation I've mentioned a few times like over all these tanned like statements are questions like let them see the conversation and get to know them better don't make assumptions don't **** shame either I just want I just realized that totally like if someone tells you they feel comes when others because they feel comfortable with that it doesn't mean that you walk away being like back girl or guy or whatever it is a hollow rightly day it's because the council telling yeah and they because they don't think you're going to judge them right you're trying to create that space of trusting and non judgment but then you're like like even faith like you know there's people have such vibrant sexual experiences to look totally different than you know like I'm like full transparency like you know this like I'm very kinky it when it comes to sex and I like some really maybe intense stuff that other people and I was real I just like you were playing piano sounds like yeah you know like maybe people don't like choking I love that you know what I mean like I'm totally comfortable saying that I'm not gonna say that to my mom like my dad yeah yeah like if you're like difficult like I would imagine like and I'm like yeah like I love it when a guy chokes me and then my straight friend or somebody else is like yeah like I totally love to be gagged and I'm like whoa it's like but I don't think of yeah I would definitely I don't think I've ever well the only to you and everyone was so again we we have so many years of like multiple layers that we have lots of like inside like jokes and one you seem like my one of my one of my friends they hang out late night leaving the more yeah yeah that the door early for domino there's like a little fine but that's a really good point trying not to slashing people even if it is a really and and cancer intense out of your experience on story or whatever and you can do is simply to say like whoa that's a really incredible story in it sounds like that was a lot of fun for you I have to be honest that's a little intense for me here and I think just moving forward like love you like you wherever you're at but probably not the best person I talked to this I'm like people being like the full transparency in like at tell me more I know I'm just like I'm not like that at I bought a Taurus man like yes yes I know I'm like do you like to be called flat with I'm interest that I would never outside to stay there yeah I would never believe you would know that I don't talk about that but I thought like he'd do you like to be called flat we know you are getting how do you feel about me name calling how do you feel about tying up which I'm also for yeah but I mean that that's as I can yeah respect that yet totally respect it like again going back to those ten questions review %HESITATION like try to avoid them it's not a big deal and if you like how should I totally ask the question trained Chris told me not to just be like oops I'm so sorry I should have asked that let's move on yeah I just don't answer the question I guess I'm so sorry and then they might be like oh no like if you're to say that meeting to me I'd be like oh girl like honey okay I really like I said earlier I mean I I thought it my leg and I think I'm I definitely buy more but when you when someone comes out to you or tell you something about their sexual orientation it really it's a new relationship at that point moving that view yeah and so you do have to out of reestablish the where we have to kind of figure out where it where lies yeah because I mean it's not as if I know you know I think you're getting ten and and so you have to really until those like questions that you think are so easy to asking are you going to be easy to answer are definitely not that and so you have to and that's our process is it's it's difficult for some easier for some others but it's %HESITATION some you have to like be like okay this is what's happening for us and that you know just be willing to like open those conversations I think the best thing anyone can do is set boundaries communicate expectations and that's river relationship but yeah I'm so serious but even like to hang like when you said that like that actually kind of hurt my feelings when you ask that man here's why yeah on both and so totally so those are the ten question and we intend that even as a one hour longer just because the of like guys now what we're gonna jump into one of our favorite parts of the podcast each episode is a game games games like that's what I thought I do do them for them so do you gays and as gay you have we're going to be serving a little bit of Mary a little bit of talk a little bit of fact a few times and never called back gods how yeah my god I love this game okay so the first one okay I just jump in and out of writing so Mary five **** a couple times %HESITATION never never call Matt Bomer K. bone yeah absolutely I Cheyenne Jackson okay and gas can't where they only Allah is so hard literally because they're also heart Jack is on the whole gosh okay I definitely marry Matt Bomer nope yes I what yeah now can for sure I would I guess I can't really change accent shy and once but like become best friends yeah but I'd **** that's gonna comes and then come back in only because he will marry he probably isn't that one really hot boyfriend has a now but like just like to leave him high and dry will be how little a little satisfaction I because because he's just so beautiful and like the world wants him you could lay just snap my Maggie I still get we met yeah like so that's that's that's what I can okay my my final interest at Skout okay your ID yeah if only does macaulay Culkin called in from like a whole legal all of it ger age I and do we'll why do Jewell is now Joe Lee ill of all that G. A. L. yellow white Jill Leo all white quite why would you give me what would you do that is going to go for an illegal why I would marry I would for five the legal and illegal I would **** home alone and I only know okay so I would I would marry chili ill just like a little Stever so we do whatever I wanted I would **** Haley Joel Osment I can say is ma'am I've ones never gone and then I would **** the home along with a few times never justified he could do some **** tied up some doors where did this but a lot to me thank you hunted him fracking around Mary fact **** a couple times and never call came Paul Ryan I own my pen Marco Rubio what what the dirty geo saying it's like in the street and I don't even doubt you I have like so many okay okay okay I would Mary Mike pence but that I would just like like Chicago cell block tango Mike where anything mind I ten times the tuition that's a miracle that the medical reference yeah she's a Peter green %HESITATION it I would I would if I **** more review once just like it like like I don't know take my money showers afterwards all in black that's true and then I spoke alright a couple times never call me again but then I would like yeah but then I calmed and again just a black male and I like that you need to leave the government and country and go to Siberia Goethe Cayman Islands where our reliance the shadows and trust me I look better than you yeah yeah the world will he have not one like photo of him like lifting the way which is like what kind of selective it flatly okay a girl yeah girl you yeah you evil anyway not on her act okay well until one OO this is okay so I went to child actors one hour ago and the other day I was like again listen forward okay Robert De Niro see for Lloyd okay a little Daddy mommy who Christopher Lloyd I need to look at a current photo of him and they just why are you **** kidding you throw numbers my Daddy's and then you're like only seen the phone one day I would it only **** him one I would **** Robert deniro a few times and never call Harrison Ford ho yeah for sure only gone as if not for Star Wars money just right alone with Frank Indiana Jones yeah I think there's a lot of role playing where that hat and nothing else Indiana yeah I'm like yes where's that we I think very disclosing tonight okay okay I have a quick one I but I think it's like I can see in him okay bye Joey Chandler and Ross you're going to judge me I go yeah I'm gonna marry Ross the trash are you I'm sorry my mind sorry I'm sorry you're right I'm so sorry he's smart he's scored he can support me like one running my nonprofit lays okay I would **** him there once and I would **** Jerry a few times and never come back I honestly do not I I mean this is a I did not think you go that route yeah I am in shock I'm shook as a prize bets Mary Chandler okay across one's %HESITATION but like I like how the **** want to like basically like the kill in the you know what we're like we know one one time and that's it we'd knocked over him the actor but the and then it died Joe he times because I mean he's got that light yeah he's got like a nice lower half and half that I think that I would get into a couple times just like tourists between nineteen and not in the rapid fire questions you know thousand really calling on my right at the light okay so that if for season everyone first of all I I really I mean I see this all the time but thank you for listening honestly it's been so crazy to hear and see and witness all my because what this part has been for other people only gosh it's been so fun it has been like so much fun Sir Graham messages lake random Facebook Matthew borrowing the gives us because I I answer questions about yeah they have them unless you want your advice from my qualified but I sure about people's lives so yes thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you like I said last time tell a few friends about it they'll have a few minds to listen to all ten after the catch up get to the moving with and we're gonna be doing some of them yeah I mean season modeling you'll see a sign so Paul was on all of the accounts and Instagram %HESITATION Facebook and Twitter it's M. fram podcasts threat %HESITATION and it you know and the it's in Kenya chat and with that so at preparing his next month so we'll we'll pre launch back in June just in time for pride mine and now we got a in the meantime obviously I'm going to tie line for a little bit but we also wanted to take some time to you know interview some folks said some really cool yeah like that some content going we want to play around with our social media accounts a little bit more where we're not having a previous episode that we can focus on that we want to build on our website and so there's a lot of like little fun projects as season one has been so far has been so fun but it's just the beginning Elena's yeah they begin it is they gave me all of these growing growing season gaining her crown she's gave me her crown I am now I'm gonna make a list of these days how can I use day and everyday wear okay so wrapping up what way is one of your favorite moments from all of season one all ten episodes OMAP Peters in excuse good luck you DZ love is the you reels there you asked me if I wanted to mention when I do I'm just waiting for the engagement ring why make maker and on his country will all be living up to your faith talked and not it's okay yeah yeah yeah man he's fine yeah what was your favorite my fever was just this weird joke in the morning a lot of people got in on it lick lick you I was like like the one of the guys to do god's love like this is so funny to be in love that I would like you to get out the more it's actually pretty progressive yeah just like that weird like I just bought like a surer like if you if you wanna make me answer it with like the morning at like I was I am like so much merchandise mentally I though if someone wanted to just like Hey if you want if that means Sir with the morning on a I'm a size medium slide entered yeah send your address as well papers it but yeah I'll pay for **** I don't care I want more you certainly made into mowing or like parting into mind at the moment is for lovers that you would get like a map had two of them right honestly if this part has made the bag I would a hundred percent it like an outline out yeah the little dog yeah my dad challenge I'm gonna make it happen that is my gosh okay have to leave I hope this is goodbye thank you that into the woods when he's singing to John anyway I do I have to say and you because it is so sad okay do you you just feel captive on are in that category we can do that in June a **** time sponsors yeah as so makes the

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